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I am getting an error "Date of Description of Douglas Paul Dietz (January 31 1898) occurred before his birth date (February 1 1947) Tip: Correct date of Description or birth date of Douglas Paul Dietz" when I run the Tree Consistency Checker.
 
I cannot find this January 31, 1898 error anyplace.   
 
Can anyone give me some tips?
 
Mike 
Michael Mitsch
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The Description field is saying that something happened in his life in 1898, which couldn't be possible if 1947 was his birth date.

Some people might have entered info such as "the Grandfather was born in 1898..." and accidently assigned that date to the Description field... but regardless of the TEXT in the entry, the DATE field is important.

Check his profile, and all tabs or entries in the profile for 1898 - it's gotta be there somewhere!

Worst case: export the tree to a GEDCOM file, which is just a plain text file. Open it in any text editor, and search for '1898'. This way, you will at least see some better context of where it is, even if it all looks like Greek.

DON'T EDIT THE GEDCOM FILE BY REMOVING THAT LINE & TRY TO IMPORT IT BACK IN - unless you're something of a computer geek, that could end badly for your tree!  Cool  Just go back to the tree, & find the record in the profile with that date, and be sure to change (or remove) the 1898 date reference.

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Michael Mitsch
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How do I export to a DEDCOM file?  I will give that a try.

 

Thanks!

 

Mike 

Michael Mitsch
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Is the issue still there now?  I don't see anything in the profile (but I'm not a site member). I've requested membership, if you'd like me to look at his details & maybe find it. Making me a member does NOT give me editing permissions, so I wouldn't be able to change anything, just see it. You can later revoke the membership if you like. Happy to help when & where I can... if you want to deny my request, that's fine, and you don't need to tell me.

 

For the GEDCOM file:

It is a text file (Genealogical Data Communication) with all the info from a family tree, with codes & data in a standard format so that different programs can trade information easily.

Instructions here - http://www.myheritage.com/help-center#/path/951685261

For this purpose, UNCHECK the 2 'photos' references, you don't need them.

Remember, this is simply to FIND the issue, then you need to return to the tree to FIX it yourself.

Save the file (doesn't matter what you call it) to your computer, then use Notepad (or any text editor) to open it & find the '1898'.  On the left margin are the codes, this will lilkely just be "DESC". But with the rest of that DESC showing there, you might figure out what's wrong.  Worst, you could copy & paste that section of text here (providing there's nothing private!) for further review.

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Michael Mitsch
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I found this in the file (made it bold for you).  I cannot find it to fix.

 No problem if you want to have a look.

Thanks!

Mike 

 

1 _UPD 15 OCT 2017 16:16:02 GMT -0500 

1 NAME Douglas Paul /Dietz/

2 GIVN Douglas Paul

2 SURN Dietz

1 SEX M

1 BIRT

2 DATE 1 FEB 1947

2 PLAC Reno, NV

1 DSCR <DSCR><DESCRIPTION>Hair Color: ; Eye Color: ; Height: ; Weight: ; Description: ; Medical:</DESCRIPTION></DSCR>

2 DATE 1 OCT 1898

1 FAMS @F500103@

1 FAMC @F500007@

1 SOUR @S500001@

2 PAGE Douglas Paul Dietz

2 QUAY 3

2 DATA

3 DATE 1 FEB 1947

3 TEXT <p>Added via a Person Discovery</p>

2 EVEN Discovery

1 SOUR @S500004@

2 PAGE https://www.myheritage.com/person-1000001_736101_736101/douglas-paul-dietz

2 QUAY 3

2 DATA

3 TEXT <p>Added by confirming a Smart Match</p>

2 EVEN Smart Matching

3 ROLE 1:736101-1-1:0

1 SOUR @S500009@

2 PAGE https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10220-112168376/douglas-paul-dietz-in-us-public-records-index

2 QUAY 4 

Michael Mitsch
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I was mistaken - membership does give EDIT permission. Don't worry, I won't!  :)

I looked at the section and see nothing 'wrong' - and I do not see that date... which is very odd. The '1' and '2' are references to # of lines of that field. So this weird Description field has 2 lines, the 2nd one being the date. What I can't figure is where it really is, as I cannot see it! I think it has something to do withtwo <Dscr> fields - and that somehow there's a hidden Description field with the date, but I'm not sure. I suspect someone on another tree with the same person, tried copying something into that field & corrupted the data, and when you matched the profile, it copied that bad field into your profile.

As I won't edit anything without your OK; if you go to that field:

https://www.myheritage.com/FP/edit-profile.php?s=71838871&indID=1500024&step=personal&origin=individual

and simply Select the whole text (Hair Color: ; Eye Color: ; Height: ; Weight: ; Description: ; Medical:) & delete it then save it, it SHOULD empty itself out, including the date. Then run the Consistency Checker (I do not have the option for someone else's tree) & see if it's still a problem.

If it still shows a problem, then you've got me stumped!

At that point, I would frankly give up trying to fix a bad record: -rename him "bad record Douglas" -create a new profile for him -add all the correct information -make the appropriate family connections, and delete the bad profile. I'm willing to do this for you if you like.  Would do nothing more...  (boy, I'm awfully bored today, aren't I??? Tongue out)

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Member wrote:

 I deleted the record and rebuilt.  Found what had caused it too.  There was a wrong date in a Smart Update from  his brother's site.  I must have accepted all the info the last time.

 

Appreciate your help! 

 

 

 

I was mistaken - membership does give EDIT permission. Don't worry, I won't!  :)

I looked at the section and see nothing 'wrong' - and I do not see that date... which is very odd. The '1' and '2' are references to # of lines of that field. So this weird Description field has 2 lines, the 2nd one being the date. What I can't figure is where it really is, as I cannot see it! I think it has something to do withtwo fields - and that somehow there's a hidden Description field with the date, but I'm not sure. I suspect someone on another tree with the same person, tried copying something into that field & corrupted the data, and when you matched the profile, it copied that bad field into your profile.

As I won't edit anything without your OK; if you go to that field:

https://www.myheritage.com/FP/edit-profile.php?s=71838871&indID=1500024&step=personal&origin=individual

and simply Select the whole text (Hair Color: ; Eye Color: ; Height: ; Weight: ; Description: ; Medical:) & delete it then save it, it SHOULD empty itself out, including the date. Then run the Consistency Checker (I do not have the option for someone else's tree) & see if it's still a problem.

If it still shows a problem, then you've got me stumped!

At that point, I would frankly give up trying to fix a bad record: -rename him "bad record Douglas" -create a new profile for him -add all the correct information -make the appropriate family connections, and delete the bad profile. I'm willing to do this for you if you like.  Would do nothing more...  (boy, I'm awfully bored today, aren't I??? Tongue out)

Michael Mitsch
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No trouble - glad the mystery's solved!
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Hi Mike,

The only fact I can see on Your family site's tree is the birth date entry. But You are working with the FTB. Is it the version 8 ?

If it's the version 8: Is it the latest downloadable build (8402 or 8404) ?

Did You checked all Facts, when You Edit Details of Douglas Paul Dietz ? 

Did You receive this error with the consistency checker ?

If You click on the Correct date of Description ..., You see this 'wrong' description fact. What is displayed there ?

Sorry for this bulk of questions.

Best regards

Remo

 

Baba
Ittigen, BE
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Michael Mitsch
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Thank you for your response.

I am using the web=base MyHeritage application.  Maybe I posted incorrecctly.  From the Family Tree menu I am choosing Consistency Checker.  This is where I get thsi error.  I have tried to Edit Details and cannot see amything for this individual.  When I click on the  Descripiton or name (links in the tip) I cannot see any place to fix the date.  Here is what I can see for the tip:

Tip: Correct date ofDescription or birth date of Douglas Paul Dietz.
 
Here is the whole error message:
 
Fact occurring before birth (1)
Fact of a person occurred before their birth date.
Date of Description of Douglas Paul Dietz (January 31 1898) occurred before his birth date (February 1 1947)
Tip: Correct date of Description or birth date of Douglas Paul Dietz.
 
Michael Mitsch
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Baba
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Hi Mike,

Thank You for the feedback. I will move this to Family site category.

It looks really strange. As a guest I cannot see something.

We have two options.

I can try to bring the light into the problem (no guarantee, of course)

- I send You a memberschip request for Your site

- I will give You my word of honor, that I'm not do something stupid, I'm not a data collector.

- After the - hopefully - solved problem, I will remove me from Your site.

You send an email to the support at support@myheritage.com

- the support can see, what is stored in the system

- You must be patient to get an answer after the ticket number

Let me know, what You like to prefer.

Best regards

Remo

 

Baba
Ittigen, BE
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Michael Mitsch
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Thanks for the continued help.  If you want to take a look I trust you.  I will look for your request on the site.

 

Thanks!

 

Mike 

Michael Mitsch
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Hi Mike,

I cannot find anything .. really strange. I will remove myself from Your site.

To prevent a ping-pong and to remove this strange date info from Your tree, I suggest the following:

  1. Add a brother to Douglas Paul Dietz, call him NEW Douglas Paul Dietz
  2. Add all the infos from Douglas Paul Dietz to NEW Douglas Paul Dietz
  3. Click on Douglas Paul Dietz
  4. Note the marriage infos
  5. Remove Connection from Partner Mary ... (let the child connected to Mary)
  6. Click on New Douglas Paul Dietz
  7. Connect to existing person as a partner (Mary ..., and select the child as of this new couple) and put the marriage infos there
  8. Check if everthing is propper connected (New Douglas & Mary, and the child of this 'new' couple)
  9. Click on Douglas Paul Dietz and Remove this person
  10. Rename New Douglas Paul Dietz to Douglas Paul Dietz

Try to run the consistency checker again. The strange date & description should be history, now.

Hope this helps

Best regards

Remo 

Baba
Ittigen, BE
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Baba
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Hi Mike,

Thank You for the feedback. So, let's try to fix the problem Cool

Best regards

Remo

Baba
Ittigen, BE
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