I didn't get to see your comments regarding Discovery Hub and Privacy issues.
I have a Premium Plus Subscription but because I do not want MH taking info from my private tree and offering it to other owners without my knowledge or permission I must forgo the Smart Match facility.MH assures me that the tree is mine to manage but obviously also believe that they have a right to use it as they want regardless of any privacy issues. I now pay a large subscription just for storing my tree on this site.
I recently found contradictory information on Ancestry so painstakingly removed a whole line of people and their children and their parents. I have no idea who I originally got that information from but sent an e-mail to 2 people that are working on the same tree in MH to ask them where they had gotten that information. They have not answered my e-mail of a few weeks ago. Now, today I get a Discovery e-mail for the exact same people that I had removed. Is there any way I can prove those people right or wrong since it was way back in the 1700s? I'm not finding any of those people on any other genealogy website.
Yes, I also have seen Discovery having the wrong names of people with 0 verification by the people who posted it. I have communicated directly to those people with limited feedback and no changes to their trees. Lots of people do not verify their data and even sometimes will miss spell the names of the people, when you provide them with documented data, they will not change their trees. Selling a miss-managed data base is a good gig if you can get people to buy in.
The names could be misspelled because the census misspelled them. In my line, my GGGrandfather's surname was Peery however it's spelled Pery, Piery, Perry and Pey on different census. I'm getting more and more frustrated with MH and their Discovery Hub AND unbelievable number of Smart Matches of which I'm getting numerous repetitive matches from the exact same people about the exact same people. The more I confirm or reject, the more that come up to be confirmed. Lots of money spent for a year's subscription only to be constantly frustrated with MH.
Yes, I understand your concern and frustration. I sent them a copy of the headstone marker details and more data, then I received a Discovery, with the wrong spelling!!!! I do not like doing the flat out - rejections, I would like to work out the details with the people, facts/documents....however, if they are in agreement and then never fix their site/tree....what is one to do. I know there are like sites out there and I have been looking to see if others have this level of problems/issues.
I think they do have problems. I go to a LDS genealogy library near my home and we talk about the different sites all the time. #1 Answer is don't copy someone else's info unless they have legitimate sources. I've been doing nothing but rejecting Smart Matches since I replied to you a few hours ago:( Right now the best site and more accurate and FREE seems to be Family Search but then you don't have ALL these other people wanting to match with yours. I've been using the comparison of other trees on the individual Smart Matches. If there are enough that agree than I confirm. If there are only a few then I reject. Good luck!
No you do not have to be a LDS member to use their resources. I've been using it for years and now go to their local church library where quite a few of the volunteers are not members either. You know they are like the storage house for archival historical data. One thing I particularly like is some data is automatically filled in on your tree once you get started. One distant uncle's information is now going back to the year 169 and includes a lot of royalty!!! Yes I said 169! However, Family Search has pointed out several "mistakes" in that particular tree. I'm working on trying to figure it out. Just go to their website, establish a login and get started on your tree. As I understand it, if you are a LDS member, you automatically have a free membership to Ancestry. I go to the library because they have free access to many resources, including Ancestry. From what I can see, Ancestry is just as mixed up as MH and many others with entries from individuals who have not really checked thoroughly the information they post. One particular thing I'm having trouble with is children born after the mother died or born before the parents were born. Family Search flags that so you can research and fix it. One thing I do like about MH is the concensus that you can look at which might clear up doubts about a new Smart Match.
Good luck, Gordon. If you need any more help, I'll be glad to help. You might see if there's a LDS library near you.
Lots of good details in this post. I am in a city that has a boat load of resources, many LDS locations, however, some are identified as Private or I need to call to make an appointment. Are they open weekends or late? (any suggestions?). Have you ever used the feature to upload from MyHeritage into FamilySearch, using GEDCOM format? I am thinking about doing this as I currently have over 5000 entries.
No I haven't uploaded a Gedcom to Family Search...just started from scratch. You would look for a LDS church that has a library. The one near me is open several days a week, including Saturday and also has classes on Thursday night. I just loggedin and clicked on Help then clicked on Find Local Help and it lists three libraries near me. Clicked on one I haven't been to and it shows the hours of operation and more. I have to say some volunteers are very helpful and others not so much. You'll soon figure out who are the "experts".
I was using Smart Matching and finding numerouse matches as I have an extensive tree. It was working fine yesterday morning but last night it just quit. I know there were actual matches in the morning but didn't get to them before the sudden crash.
I keep getting the alert there are smart matches on my tree just like I did in the morning but when I go to Smart Matches I get "There are no SmartMatches for ..." I know these matches were there yesterday morning and I contacted one of the family tree owners (a cousin by marriage) and was told the tree is still active with no changes for 4 years.
I'm sorry as I know I have already posted once, but that post seems to have vanished.
I understand the dynamic nature of Smart Matches, but I'm not understanding why in the span of 2 hours my Smart Matches went from working to not working. My "Overview" tab still shows tons of matchs (627 for 114 people) but none of them work. When I go to the "Compare" tab every single one says "No Smart Matches for...." and I have clicked on everyone to be sure.
This feature is very cool and worked at 3 PM EST yesterday but did not work at 5 PM EST yesterday and hasn't worked since.
I read and understand that people who modify their trees can effect this feature, so I contacted one of the tree owners for a smart match that is no longer working (she is husband's cousin) and she assured me she hasn't touched her tree in 4 years. This makes me believe at the very least her matches should still work, right?
In addition, my posts on this forum seem to disappear immediately after I read the response and won't allow me to do additional replies.
I feel it would help if reveiwing "By family trees" that the "Site manager" should be searchable, this would be extreemly helpful when an invitation to join another site is recieved. This would make it possible to see who the matched relations are, and if they have been mutually confirmed.
Also when searching "By people" the search box should alow wildcard characters ie :-
'?' a single character and
'*' none or more characters
(This should also apply to my "Site manager" search above)
I am a relatively [no pun intended] new user but an experienced researcher. I have a question about Smart Matches. Frequently when I get a Smart Match the main match is correct but the parents will be incorrect or the children will be incorrect. I certainly am not going to add those to my tree. I don't have the time or the inclination to contact someone who is obviously not a careful researcher to inform them that their data is incorrect. How do you long time users handle this? I have begun to think that even looking at Smart Matches is a waste of time.
I in fact do contact tree owners where there seems to be a discrepancy. Especially where I can quote birth certificates and so on, and that is easy to cut and paste from the 'notes' I keep for each person.
Though I have pretty much stopped using the 'do you want to send a message' (or whatever) section in the online smart matches as the message is often not seen (I have missed them myself).
Instead I hit the 'contact' 'button'.
Often I get a thank-you, much more often since I started using the 'contact' method. Sometimes I get helpful information back.
Got abused once...
[an old Chinese proverb is reputed to say,"Why do you hate me, I have never tried to help you". ]
The SmartMatches will not allow you to add the additional people to your family tree and will only allow you to copy any missing information to the profile card of a specific person that is being matched such as birth date, name etc.
Unfortunately there is nothing that we are able to do about users having the incorrect information in their family trees as it is a user that is entering this information and not MyHeritage. We only provide the platform for users such as yourself to create and maintain a family tree. As a result we have provided the option to contact the matching tree site manager so that the validity of information may be discussed. This way users may help each other out and gain the best and most accurate information about their family.
I AM TRYING TO DO A FAMILY TREE OF THE BAILEYS AND CONLEYS . I AM RELATED TO BOTH. mY GRANDMOTHER HAD BOOKS ON BOTH SIDES BUT WHEN HER BROTHER CARSON PASSED THEY GOT LOST SOMEWHERE. if ANYONE HAS ANY INFO THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I AM ASFAR AS LOUIS AND MARY CONLEY ON THE CONLEY AND SIERRIE AND DOUGLAS ADAMS BEING MY GRANDMOTHERS FATHERS MOTHER ON THE BAILEY SIDE. IF ANYONE CN HELP ME YOU CAN FIND ME ON FB AT TAUNIA RIENTS. THANKS.
At times I have received well over 100 new Smart Matches in 24 hours and find it a very tiresome process to check them all. If they are genuine matches I don't mind because it can be beneficial for both parties, but most times the matches in many ways are superfluous or superficial.
Some I can reject outright because they contain insufficient information (I don't know why MyHeritage even includes them and can give them three stars). My method is to confirm them if dates, parents' and spouse's names are reasonably close, and if there is at least one matching child's name.
What I find to be particularly irritating are:
Trees that haven't been updated for several years
Multiple, nearly identical trees from the same site manger that have been created as backups or for other reasons
Trees that contain the same person at least twice, indicating, presumably, that the site manger has unwittingly duplicated a person.
I think that it should be possible for MyHeritage to filter out some of these irregularities, but I would also be interested to hear whether any other member has experienced similar problems and developed methods for dealing with them. I can't imagine how trees with over 250 000 names can effectively be managed :(
I can't imagine how trees with over 250 000 names can effectively be managed :(
simply, they are not managed. Site "managers"of such trees just copy into their trees everything they can get hold of. MyHeritage offers, via SmartMatching/FTB and InstantDiscoveries, two excellent tools for multiple copying.
This is one way for duplication, triplication, and so on. I have seen many such cases.
What do I do? Just look at SM as a tool for finding out who really may work in the same area as I do. Sometimes you may find additions to your tree. I do not care about all the other "matches". And, by the way, I cannot see any advantage in "confirming" a match.
I use Smart Matches cautiously but have found it useful at times in providing leads to new people, mainly ancestors, and it has just got me back into the CE 900s. Likewise Instant Discoveries have helped build up my tree, but I find that Record Matches have been a bit of a disappointment (particularly when I get a reference to Family Search and find that I need membership).
I like to think that MyHeritage is correct in saying that confirming matches improves the overall quality of the system.
Not to grizzle too much, I think that the system overall has some fine features.
MyHeritage offers different subscriptions for different services, as you can see. The Data Subscription allows you to access all the collections on SuperSearch and confirm/reject all the Record Matches. We offer it that way, both to give the option for users to decide whether they have all services or just part of it, according to their needs on their research. Moreover, many of our collections on SuperSearch come from different sources to which we also have to pay royalties.
The Record Matches may be useful for you, too, in case the records you received are really relevant. Many of the records we offer, such as Census records and FamilySearch trees offer the option to extract the information from the record to the person's profile on your family tree, as well as add new people to your tree. For example, if you find a Census record for a person that had other relatives living in a same household, and you do not have those relatives in your family tree, with just a few clicks you are able to add those new relatives in your tree, extracting their information from the record.
Wish you good luck on your overall genealogy research!
Theoretically they could be the most reliable as the tree may be complete and correct; but in fact probably not.
Multiple, nearly identical trees from the same site manager
Multiple trees like that are an absolute pain, I have put a bar on nearly all of the trees of someone with around twenty.
Trees that contain the same person at least twice
A possible reason for several names the same in a family with the same parents is the naming of a child (or even more than one if there are two deaths) with the exact or similar name of a child who died.