We hope to find our ELDER family origins in Scotland.
We welcome any male worldwide with the surname ELDER to participate in our Y-Chromosome DNA project, ordering the "mouth swab" kit and lab report by FamilyTreeDNA. If you are a female researcher with a close male relative still carrying the surname ELDER we encourage you to request their participation. The goal of the ELDER Surname Project is to distinguish between ELDER ancestral lines, worldwide, and connect lines that have reached brick walls on their paper trail, especially to connect to their Scotland origins.
ELDER DNA kits are now divided into at least 6 separate groups by their DNA matches, plus others that don't match any ELDER group. My brother's Y-DNA kit is #10042 in "FRANKLIN CO PA" group.
1. FRANKLIN CO PA group: 26 matching entries Includes known descendants of "ROBERT ELDER d. 1807 FRANKLIN CO PA." Also includes 5 descendants of "GEORGE ELDER, d. 1800 Bedford Co PA," and one known descendant of "DAVID ELDER and MARGERY STEWART" - FRANKLIN CO PA. (Those 3 Rev. War Soldiers could be brothers.) Others matching: JAMES ELDER SR. of Clarion Co PA JOHN ELDER, Mercer Co PA JOHN ELDER, Beaver Co PA JAMES AND JOHN ELDER of RANDOLPH CO NC ANDREW R. ELDER- March 15,1795 -July 1854 in Alexander County, NC JOHN ELDER, res. Iredell Co NC 1800 SAMUEL ELDER, Sevier Co TN JACOB ELDER d. 1818 Lincoln Co KY JOHN ELDER, b. abt 1814 NC JAMES ELDER, d. 1991 WI
**** 2. GLASGOW group: 5 Newly traced Descendants from Scotland. (Not matching other ELDER lines)
**** 3. MAINE ELDER group (4 entries):
#23005 A. SAMUEL TYNG ELDER (matches 12/12, 35/37, 64/67 with England) b. 1784 Portland, Cumberland, ME, d. 1829 Moss Point, Jackson Co., MS
#20923 B. ANDREW ELDER d. 1807 Madison Co., KY
#87786 C. ALEXANDER ELDER,b. 1796, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
#100589 D. GEORGE ELDER (b. 1811 E. Anstruther, Fife - d. Ontario, Canada) JOHN ELDER (b. 1769 Crail, Fife) may be related to JOHN ELDER, b. 1806 Crail, Fife - immigr. NJ/CT
**** 4. PAXTANG PA: 8 entries ANCESTOR and RELATIVE: A."ROBERT ELDER, b. 1679 Scotland-- d. PAXTANG PA" (3 entries) [his son "Rev. John ELDER of PAXTANG"] [Excellent Descendant's paper trail with DNA to match this very different "I = VIKING HAPLOGROUP"] B."Robert Scott ELDER" --his ELDER family still lives in ELDERS RIDGE PA--they have an ELDER family BIBLE to prove he is the 10th ROBERT in the PAXTANG line. C. JOHN ELDER of BALLYMONEY, Co. ANTRIM, Northern Ireland (2) D. ROBERT ELDER of Inch Island, Co. Donegal, Ireland E. Robert H. ELDER, b. abt 1828 Indiana Co PA d. 1892 Dallas County Iowa F. William Hoyt Elder, b. 1867, Spartanburg, SC matches 66/67-- STEWART #5830, 36246, etc.
5. PETER ELDER of VA group: 8 entries Excellent paper trails for these matching entries. (Lee ELDER book)
6. WILLIAM ELDER (Catholic of Frederick Co MD): 7 entries Excellent paper trail for 4 of these matching entries. Other ELDER researchers have known CATHOLIC paper trails.
7. More Different ELDER DNA in file which doesn't match any ELDER, some of them in Scotland!
History of the Parishes Ramoan Parish (Rath-Modhain, Modan's Fort).
The parish was founded by St. Patrick in about 450 A.D. The following is a resume of parish history based upon Hugh Boyd's 'A History of the Church of Ireland in Ramoan Parish.' (R. Carswell & Son Ltd, Belfast, 1930). The parish has two churches.
Holy Trinity, Ballycastle. Holy Trinity
The church is situated in the main square (or 'Diamond') of Ballycastle enclosed in a churchyard. Like the rest of the square the church is grade 'A' listed. The church was completed in 1756, being built by Colonel Hugh Boyd, who bore the total cost. It was built in Graeco-Italian style with an apse-shaped chancel and an octagonal spire about 100 feet high. It was effectively a chapel for the Boyd family and estate for many years, the remains of many Boyd descendants are in the vaults below, although it was always subject to Episcopal jurisdiction. It was given to the Church of Ireland about 1950. This church is open every day from 9am-5pm.
St. James, Ramoan. St James's
This church is about a mile outside of town at the intersection of Ramoan Road and Church Road and lies a short distance from the original site founded by St. Patrick about 450 A.D where a church was established under St. Ereclacius. A series of churches were built on this site but eventually the current parish church was built in 1849 about 150 yards from the ancient site and the name changed to St. James. It is built in Early English style with Gothic windows. A notable Rector was Rev. J. S. B. Monsell (1811-75) who authored the hymns 'Worship the Lord in the Beauty of Holiness' and 'Fight the Good Fight', amongst others.
Culfeightrin Parish. Culfeightrin
This small parish is grouped with Ramoan and was also founded by St. Patrick. The current parish church is found just before the village of Ballyvoy and dates from 1831. Within this parish lies the promontory Fair Head (636 feet) upon which can be seen Scottish mountains and, of course, the Mull of Kintyre, just across the sea. Also within the parish boundary is the centre of reconciliation known as 'Corrymeela'. ***
Welcome to Ardaghmore Bed and Breakfast in Ballycastle. Ardaghmore is a family-run Victorian house in a peaceful area overlooking Ballycastle Bay with breathtaking views of Rathlin Island, Fair Head and the Mull of Kintyre providing excellent Antrim Coast accommodation. ...Ardaghmore is an ideal base from which to explore the Glens of Antrim and the Causeway Coast... ****
dau Margaret http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=calciskid2006&id=I92878 # ID: I92878 # Name: Margaret J. Elder # Given Name: Margaret J. # Surname: Elder # Sex: F # Note: In "Through The Years In Old Winnsboro" by Katherine Theus Obear (R.L. Bryan Co. 1940), there is a reference on pages 101-102 to Mrs. Margaret J. Shaw and her brother Frank Elder owning a store in Winnsboro in 1870. From this, I infer Mrs. Shaw's maiden name was Elder. *** Ballyportery and Loughguile in BALLYMONEY DATABASE:
KILRAUGHTS, or CILRAGHTS, a parish, in the barony of UPPER DUNLUCE, county of ANTRIM, and province of ULSTER, 4 miles (E.) from Ballymoney,
Ballymoney First Valuation Firstname : Robert Surname : Elder Parish : Loughguile Townland : Ballyportery North PRONI reference: VAL/1B/146A
CHART 1. FRANKLIN CO PA group: 23 matching entries (Nancy's group) Includes known descendants of "ROBERT ELDER, b. 1730 Perth, Scotland - d. 1807 FRANKLIN CO PA." Also includes 4 descendants of "GEORGE ELDER, d. 1800 Bedford Co PA," and one known descendant of "DAVID ELDER and MARGERY STEWART" - FRANKLIN CO PA. (Those 3 Rev. War Soldiers could be brothers.) Others matching: JAMES ELDER SR. of Clarion Co PA JOHN ELDER, Mercer Co PA JOHN ELDER, Beaver Co PA JAMES AND JOHN ELDER of RANDOLPH CO NC ANDREW R. ELDER- March 15,1795 -July 1854 in Alexander County, NC JOHN ELDER, res. Iredell Co NC 1800 SAMUEL ELDER, Sevier Co TN JACOB ELDER d. 1818 Lincoln Co KY JOHN ELDER, b. abt 1814 NC
**** CHART 4. PAXTANG PA: 6 entries ANCESTOR and RELATIVE: A."ROBERT ELDER, b. 1679 Scotland-- d. PAXTANG PA" (3 entries) [his son "Rev. John ELDER of PAXTANG"] [Excellent Descendant's paper trail with DNA to match this very different "I = VIKING HAPLOGROUP"]
JOSIAH ELDER, with 1st wife EMILY TROMBLEY ELDER and her children, abt 1886. Josiah ELDER obit
Dundee Monroe Co Michigan - Plat Map 1876 (see bottom left corner of map) Emily is the daughter of Moses TROMBLEY and Edesse DROUILLARD, married 26 JAN 1847 St Antoine's Church, Monroe Co, Michigan. Emily was born 14 DEC 1847, Monroe Co, MI (Petersburg?) Photo owned by Nancy Elder Harris, Petersburg, Monroe County, MI Scanned by Nancy Elder Petersen, Vancouver, Clark County, WA, October 2001. Identification: My notes say that Emily died in 1889. Her 5th child was Edward, b. 1886. So if this photo is 1886, that would be Mother Emily! The boy on the right sure looks like our grandfather Martin, b. 1877, so he would be age 9. Then Ellen, b. 1884, age 2 Alfred, b. 1872, age 14. Mary Ada, b. 1869, age 17.