John St. John

Born:1498 In:  Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England
Died:Aug 27 1562 (at age ‎~64‏)In:  Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England
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John St John
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Sybil verch St John (born Morgan)
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Catherine frech Gruffydd (born St. John)
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Alice St John
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Margaret Gamage, (born St John)
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Elizabeth Rotherham (born St John)
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Sybil Kirkhan (born St John)
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Oliver Saint John
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Katherine John
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John St. John
Birth names: John Saint JohnSir John St. John
Gender: Male
Birth: 1498 - Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England
Marriage: Spouse: Lady Margaret Walgrave - Circa 1515 - Of, Smallbudge, Bures., Suffolk, England
Death: Aug 27 1562 - Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England
Burial: Sep 16 1562 - Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England
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  Additional information: LifeSketch:10-a-1-b-1. SIR JOHN ST. JOHN VI (1498-1562) 10-a-1-b-1-a. LADY MARGARET WALDEGRAVE (1500-1565) SIR JOHN ST. JOHN VI was born 18 December 1498, at Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England to Sir John St. John (1450-1525) and Sybil Margred Verch Morgan (1453-1529.) He married (1) *Margaret Waldegrave about 1515 of Smallbudge, Bures., Suffolk, England; (2) Anne de Neville (1499-1595) md. after 1540. Sir John St. John died 27 August 1562, at Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England, age 64. Sir John St. John John St John, Knt. Vitals Son of John Saint John, K.B., and Sibyl ferch Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip[1] father John Saint John, K.B., son of John Saint John, Esq., and Alice Bradshaugh[2] mother Sibyl (Margaret), daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin and his 2nd wife Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt.[3] Married (1) in or before 1521 Margaret Waldegrave, (2) Anne Neville[1] Margaret Waldegrave was the daughter of William Waldegrave, K.B., and Margery, daughter of Henry Wentworth[1] Anne Neville was the daughter and co-heiress of Thomas and Alice (Wauton) Neville[4] Children: by Margaret[1] • Oliver, Knt., 1st Lord Saint John of Bletsoe, m (1) Agnes Fisher and (2) Elizabeth Chamber • John • Margery, m (1) Henry Grey, Esq., (2) Francis Pigott, Esq. • Anne, m Richard Dennis[5] • Margaret, m (1) William Gastwick, Esq., (2) Francis Russell, K.G., K.B. • Alice, m Edward Elmes, Esq. • by Anne (born prior to John and Anne's marriage)[1][6] • Charles • Cressett, m John Butler (Boteler), Esq. • Mary, m John Harvey • Jane, m John Gascoigne Died 19 December 1558 (will dated 6 April 1558, proved February 1558/9); wife Anne and son Oliver named in will[1] Biography The indication that Sir John Saint John was having children with two women concurrently adds an unusual degree of research interest to this profile. Presumably his wife Margaret and her family were at one of the family's manors in Bletsoe, Bedfordshire. Where was Anne and her children at this time? Did he keep Anne a secret from Margaret? How is that possible in an era when servants gossip? Any additional documentation regarding his family life -- dates and places and events of his children in their minority -- would add additional light to this profile!Day-1904 18:39, 10 January 2016 (EST) Name John Saint John, Knt, [1] Estimating Birth Year He was Knight of the Body to the King in 1516. If at least 18 for this role, his birth year was 1498. He was first married about 1521. If at least 21 for this role, his birth year was 1500. While without documentation, the birth year of his eldest child is currently shown as 1516. If he were 18 for the birth of this child, his own birth year would be 1498. He is currently shown, without documentation, as born 1495. This is not an unreasonable birth year. Offices During his life he carried these titles and offices: [1] Knight of the Body to King Henry VIII, 1516 Justice of the Peace for Bedfordshire, 1528-58 Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire, 1529-30, 1534-5, 1549-50 Knight of the Shire for Bedfordshire, 1529, 1539, 1542 Guardian to Princess Mary Tudor (later Queen Mary I) 1536 Chamberlaind of the Household to Princess Elizabeth Tudor (later Queen Elizabeth I) Places He owned and was associated with the following properties: [1] Bletsoe and Keysoe, Bedfordshire, Ashmore, Dorset, Paulerespury, Northamptonshire, Fonman and Penmark, Glamorgan, Wales. Birth and Parentage John was the son of John St John and Sibyl Ferch Mergan Ap Jenkin Ap Philip. [1] Public Service He was Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire at various times. 1521 First Marriage to Margaret Waldegrave He married first, in or before 1521, Margaret Waldegrave, daughter of Sir William Waldegrave, K. B. and Margery Wentworth. They had two sons and four daughters.[1] Sir John St. John of Bletneshoe, Knight, sonne & heire. m. Margaret, dau of Sir William Walgrave of Smallbridge (Buers St. Maryes) in com. Suffolk, Knight. Liaison with Anne, dau of Thomas Nevell, of Cotterstock in com. Northampton 2 sonne of William Nevell of Holte in Com. Lester. Father of Cressyd ux John Boteler of Sharnbrooke in com. Bedfford. [7] Affair (and later, second marriage) to Anne Neville He married, as his second wife, Anne Neville, daughter of Thomas Neville and Aice Wauton. They had five children prior to their marriage. [1] A review of the children's marriage dates suggests that John was conducting an affair with Anne during the time of his marriage with Margaret, and that he did not marry Anne until after Margaret's death. Since all five of his children with Anne were born before their marriage, if the dates are to be trusted, then Margaret's death, and John's marriage to Anne, came sometime after 1540. 1536 Guardian to Princess Mary Tudor He was guardian to Princess Mary Tudor in 1536, and Chamberlain of the Household to Princess Elizabeth Tudor. 1558 Death He died on December 19, 1558, at Bletsoe, Bedfordshire. His will named his wife Anne and his sons Oliver and John. Issue John and Margaret John and Margaret had two sons and four daughters. They had sons Oliver (m. Agnes Fisher and Eliabeth Chamber) and John, and daughters Margery, Ann, Margaret (m. William Gostwick and Francis Russell), and Alice.[1] Birth years currently shown for the children of John and Margaret begin in 1516 and continue through 1533. 1. Oliver St. John, Knt, First Lord St. John of Bletsoe, b. Bletsoe 1516. Unsourced. Named in father's 1558 will along with his brother John. 2. John St. John. No WikiTree Profile. Named in father's 1558 will along with his brother Oliver. 3. Anne St John m. Richard Dennis. . b. Bletsoe 1518 m. Thomas Elye. 4. Margery St. John, wife of Henry Gray, Esq, and Francis Pigott, Esq. b. Bletsoe abt 1520.. 5. Alice St John m Edmund Elmes, Esq. b. Bletsoe 1520. No children. 6. Margaret St John m. William Gostwick and Francis Russell. b. Bletsoe 1533. Has children. John and Anne John and Anne had five children prior to their marriage: Charles, Cressett (m. John Butler/Boteler), Jane, Mary, and one other daughter.[1] Birth years currently shown for the children of John and Anne begin in 1518 and continue to 1540. Assuming the correctness of these dates, John's children by Anne were born concurrently with his children by Margaret. Children as currently displayed in WikiTree: 1. Jane St John m. John Gascoigne. b. Bletsoe 1518. 2. Charles St John, born Bletsoe 1524. No spouse, no children, unsourced. Currently shown as child of Margaret, not Anne. b. Bletsoe 1524. 3. Mary Saint John m. John Harvey, b. Bletsoe 1530. No children. Unsourced. 4. Cressett (Cressyda) St John b. Bletsoe 1540. m. John Butler/Boteler (currently duplicate profiles). 5. Female Saint John (Information from WikiTree.) st Mary's Church Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England LINKED TO JOHN ST JOHN SIR JOHN ST JOHN LINKED TO JOHN ST JOHN ^Knight_Grand_Cross_of the order of the Bath -Second highest order in the UK LINKED TO JOHN ST JOHN ST. JOHN, Sir John (by 1495-1558), of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire Posted 11 Jun 2015 by Renee Adams Appearing on the website: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/st-john-sir-john-1495-1558 ST. JOHN, Sir John (by 1495-1558), of Bletsoe, Beds. Published in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1509-1558, ed. S.T. Bindoff, 1982 Available from Boydell and Brewer ConstituencyDates BEDFORDSHIRE1 ? 1529 BEDFORDSHIRE2 1539 BEDFORDSHIRE 1542 Family and Education b. by 1495, 1st s. of Sir John St. John of Bletsoe by Sybil, da. of Rhys ap Morgan. m. (1) by 1521, Margaret, da. of Sir William Waldegrave of Smallbridge, Suff., 5s. inc. John andOliver 4da.; (2) Anne, da. of Thomas Neville of Cotterstock, Northants., 1s. 4da. illegit. bef. m. suc. fa. 30 Mar. 1525. Kntd. Feb./Nov. 1526.3 Offices Held Commr. subsidy, Beds. 1523, 1546, musters 1539, 1546, benevolence 1544/45, chantries, Beds. and Bucks. 1546, 1548, relief, Beds. and Hunts. 1550, goods of churches and fraternities, Beds. 1553; other commissions 1530-54; j.p. Beds. 1528-d., Hunts. 1528-47; sheriff, Beds. and Bucks. 1529-30, 1534-5, 1549-50, knight of the body by 1533; ‘custos’ to Princess Mary in 1536; yeoman forester, Farming Woods, Northants. 1539-44; chamberlain, household of Princess Elizabeth date unknown.4 Biography Head of the senior branch of his family, Sir John St. John could trace his descent to Normandy before the Conquest, although there is no firm evidence of settlement in England until after 1100. His great-grandmother, Margaret Beauchamp, had considerably increased the family’s wealth by her inheritance of the manors of Lydiard Tregoz, Wiltshire, and Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, and its standing by her second marriage to John Beaufort, Duke of Somerset, thus linking the St. Johns with the house of Tudor. The Wiltshire property descended to the junior branch of the family.5 St. John’s monumental inscription is probably correct in stating that he was brought up by Margaret Beaufort, and as he was on the threshold of manhood when she died in 1509 his entry to the court of her grandson would have been a natural sequel. In 1521 he was among 50 gentlemen who accompanied Wolsey to Calais. In the same year his father made a marriage settlement of the greater part of his inheritance—the manors of Bletsoe and Keysoe, Bedfordshire, and Paulerspury, Northamptonshire—to the use of St. John and his wife: its annual value was estimated in 1525 at £130. In 1526 St. John leased his other freehold property, a Dorset manor worth £13 a year, to William Uvedale for 21 years.6 St. John was knighted at some time between February 1526 and the following autumn, when he was nominated, but not pricked, sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire. In July 1527 he again accompanied Wolsey to Calais. His inclusion in the commissions of the peace for Bedfordshire and Huntingdonshire in 15
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