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Chris Bricker
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...first of all I think there may be a problem with your forum software - the search functionality was frustrating.

Currently if I tag a photo with someone already in my tree the tree-entry and photo are linked nicely.  However I would like to also see the reverse.   My suggestion is this:   There should be a way to link previously uploaded&tagged photos to new family tree entries.

Also if I uploaded a single photo (to seed the facial recognition) the site would ask if this new family tree entry is one of the other ppl already tagged in the other photos.

 

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Uri Gonen
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Hi Chris,

I am not sure I completely understand your question. Can you please clarify what you mean by: “there should be a way to link previously uploaded & tagged photos to new family tree entries”.

Do you mean that if you see a face in a photo and this person is not yet in the family tree, that there should be a way to add this “new” person from the photo into the family tree?

I also didn’t quite understand what you meant by: “the site would ask if this new family tree entry is one of the other ppl already tagged in the other photos.”

Again, did you mean that if you previously tagged a person in a photo, and that person was not yet added to the family tree, and then you are adding him/her to the family tree, there should be a way to say that this new person and the person that was previously tagged is in fact the same person?

Thanks,

Uri Gonen

MyHeritage Product Manager

Uri Gonen
Israel
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Chris Bricker
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Hey Uri

Thank you for taking interest.  I think you have the gist of what I'm trying to say.  To clarify, let me describe my scenario:

A new user creates an accent on myheritage.com.  They first muddle around a bit in the family tree section adding a few family members.   Second, they go to the photos section and upload a few hundred family photos.  They then tag all the photos with the help of the facial recognition functionality.  During the tagging process even though all the family members get tagged, the family that were first added to the family-tree get linked to the tagged photosets; their family tree profiles are linked to the many photos. 

Finally the user returns to the family tree section of the site to add the missing family members they have just spent time tagging.  This is where the usability issues start: when adding a new node to the family tree, there is no way to link it to a tagged individual in the photos.  Currently, it seems the only work-around is to:

  1. Delete all your photos. 
  2. Complete your entire family tree
  3. Then re-upload your photos an re-tag everything

Obviously this is not an ideal solution.  Here's my suggestion:

When you add a new node to your tree create an additional section that displays thumbnails of the individuals in your photosets that closely match the provided first & last name.  The user can then click on the thumbnail of the individual they are adding.  You might also add a search box next to the thumbnails to (that would update the thumbnail list asynchronously) to reconcile people tagged with nicknames, or alternate names, etc...

This same thing could also happen during photo upload for the new family tree member.  After upload the site could provide the list of thumbnails (via facial recognition), and in the same way, give the user a choice to a link the tree-node with a tagged individual. 

Let me know if this clarifies the suggestion.

-Chris

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Uri Gonen
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Hi Chris, I think I now understand what you’re saying, and there is a solution for that, although not perfect. Here’s what’s happening. When you (or other people you invited) tag people in photos, and you start typing a name, the site lets you select people that are already in the family tree. If you don’t select someone in the tree (because this person was never added to the tree) the site will create a new entry for this person. However, the person is NOT added to the family tree. It’s just a name in a photo. Then, when you do add this person to the correct place in the family tree, there will be, unfortunately, nothing that connects these two entities automatically. What you’ll have is a person in the family tree with NO photos AND a name, not in the family tree WITH photos. However, you do not need to delete all the photos and retag them. What you can do is the following. Say you just added “Roger Williams” to the family tree and you suspect that this name has already been tagged in photos. You go to the Photos & Videos tab and go to the Tag people page. There, go to the “Already tagged” tab (the second one) and look for “Roger Williams” (you can search for this name at the top left corner where it says “Find person” below the blue line). If you find this person, it means that the name was tagged in photos but the tagging was not connected to the person in the family tree. What you do is this: Select this person to see all the faces where he was tagged. Above the Save button, you will be able to type in a name. Erase the name “Roger Williams” and start typing it again! You will see that the site suggests TWO people named “Roger Williams”. So select the one that does not have a photo (this is the person in the family tree) and not the one with the photo (this is the name that was tagged but is not in the tree). Click Save. Now, all the photos that were once tagged as the name, will now be tagged as the person in the family tree. You will need to refresh the page in order to see the changes. It’s a bit confusing, I know, and we are working to make it better in future versions of the software.Hope this helps, Uri GonenMyHeritage Product Manager
Uri Gonen
Israel
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Bruce Tait
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Hi Uri,

 I am having exactly the same problem as Chris, but now (a year later) the software has been updated and I can't do what you suggested as the solution!

i.e. "What you do is this: Select this person to see all the faces where he was tagged. Above the Save button, you will be able to type in a name."

It seems like I have to go to each photo where an individual was tagged to correct this error. In my case I only have one to fix, but when I invite my family who are used to facebook, they will start uploading images and tagging without adding people to the tree...

I don't want to limit their ability to upload photos, and have to do it all myself. Is there some other fix for this?

Bruce

Bruce Tait
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Noam
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Hi Bruce,

We have released a new Tagger for user in every Family Site.

You can reach it through the Photos & Videos page > Tag People

On the right-hand side, if you choose to Display All individuals who were already tagged, you will have the option of Correcting a Tagging Mistake for a specific person,

and you will be able to do so for several photos at a time.

Regards,

Noam \ MyHeritage 

Noam
Israel
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Chris Bricker
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Hey Uri

Thanks for the tip - that helps.  

I'm looking forward to future releases!

-Chris

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