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Specification of dates
George Bennett
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The International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) has a standard for the writing of calendar dates in all numeric form (ISO 2014-1976). The standard, also set out in Australian Standard (1120-1978) specifies a descending order of year(four digits) month and day. For example 19870810 a hyphen or space may be used between year and month, and between month and day:  1987-08-10  or 1987 08 10  .   The form you use  Oct. 10 1987 is North American and is not natural in say, Australia and Great Britain.  Offering this alternative form of presentation would be great improvement to some users of your  programme.  
George Bennett
Austria
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RE: Specification of dates
George Bennett
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This topic was last answered by you in late 2012. Has anything been done since then to allow the specification of dates in a family tree in a rational, all numeric form and as specified by the International Organisation for Standardisatyion (ISO). It cannot be so difficult to include this option in your programme!  If you look through the past Forums you will see the demand for this - not just from me.

(g.bennett@unsw.edu.au)

George Bennett
Austria
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RE: Specification of dates
Esther Weinberg
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Hi George, 

Under Tools> Options > Dates, you can choose to show the dates in your tree in Family Tree Builder differently.

Best Regards, Esther / MyHeritage Team  

Esther Weinberg
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RE: Specification of dates [2]
George Bennett
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Hello Esther, 

 Back again to my problem of a sensible specification of dates - NOT the blind apeing of the american practice of month (in letters) followed by day and year. From the entries in the 'specification of dates' forum it is obvious that this a source of continual  unhappiness with your programme by a large number of members.  If I go to tools>options>dates>standard and move down I am offered the choice of % %mm% %yyyy% This works but the % marks look ridiculous on the tree!  In fact the system also allows %yyyy  mm dd%, but again the % marks appear on the tree; If they could be suppressed I, for one, would be happy with the results. I am even willing to change all the existing entries in my tree.  Please, please, please see if something can be done - you must have programmers with some ability to be flexible. If they provide the ancient  French Revolutionary calendar in the choice available, surely they can provide for the current International Standards Organisation standard.

 

Regards,  George        (g.bennett@unsw.edu.au) 

George Bennett
Austria
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RE: Specification of dates [3]
Esther Weinberg
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Hi George, 

I believe that the reason that you still see the % sign is because you are not putting the right format into the option in Family Tree Builder. Under tools> options> Dates, you should use the ofllowing symbold: %d% for days, %m% for months, and %y% for years. You can move them around to the order that you prefer, but you cannot change how the month, day, or year is written by the system. 

For example, I can change my settings so that days are shown first in the dates in my tree. Under tools > options > dates, I would write %d% %m% %y%.

We understand that there are still many options for dates that are missing, that our users would appreciate- for example, changing the months from Jan, Feb, Mar to January, February, March... We are taking all of these suggestions into consideration for future changes. 

Best Regards, Esther / MyHeritage Team  

Esther Weinberg
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RE: Specification of dates [2]
Volker Friedrich Leidner
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Hi, I have been reading abt the date problems which are also mine. Unfortunately I must be not familiar enough with the site, because I can't even find the suggested "tools" as to reset the date system...Perhaps you are able to direct me ?

Anyway, a date always starts with the smallest element (whatever the US might say) i.e. the day, followed by the month and then the year. If I type 05/03/1950, I expect it to be 5th March and not 3rd of May. God knows how many of my dates are now back to front?

I also had an issue with Dean of the support team, as I have events in Papua New Guinea, which promptly show up as Guinea (Africa) in the "report" section. He said it would be corrected, but nothing seems to have happened since our last exchange mid-July 2012

Thanks Volker

Volker Friedrich Leidner
Deutschland
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RE: Specification of dates [3]
Dean Aston
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Dear Mr.Leidner,

Thank you for your post.

I have sent you an email to your personal inbox to assist you with this inquiry.

Kind Regards,

Dean. 

Dean Aston
Israel
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RE: Specification of dates [3]
Volker Friedrich Leidner
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I just noticed that my "location" is Germany/Deutschland. I was indeed born there, but haven't lived there since 1961. So why is this programme trying to run my life ?
Volker Friedrich Leidner
Deutschland
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RE: Specification of dates [2]
George Bennett
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Hi Esther,

 

Thanks for the prompt reply. BUT the option I suggested is not one of the alternatives offered (at least I could not find it).  There is a lot in favour of an all numeric specification (at least to me and I presume to people in a multi-lingual environment). Any comments?  Regards, George.  (g.bennett@unsw.edu.au)

 

PS.  How can I add dates of marriage, occupations, etc. for printing out in reports where these headings exist. Thanks. 

George Bennett
Austria
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RE: Specification of dates [3]
Esther Weinberg
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Hi George, 

Sorry for not pointing out before that there are still a limited about of date options, and that the one in specific that you are looking for is not currently available. I will pass on your suggestion to the appropriate department for consideration.

Regarding  adding facts, you can add them in Family TRee Builder in the following way:

How do I enter a fact in my Family Tree Builder tree?

Once the chart is created, you can choose which facts to include in the chart by going to Options > Facts. 

Esther / MyHeritage Team  

Esther Weinberg
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RE: Specification of dates [4]
George Bennett
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Hi, 

 

thanks for the helpful reply. Looking through the forums under 'date', I notice that over the past years others have requested the format I suggested' .

 

If I want to use the format Day Month Year,  do I have to put it in the form y% %month% %year%  ?   If so that would be a nuisance!     

 

Regards  George 

George Bennett
Austria
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RE: Specification of dates [5]
Ian Bell
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Hi George,

This is not so much to do with the dates, but your location. It appears you are in good old Oz (by your email adress) but your profile says Austria. Maybe this was an auto fill problem which you did not notice. I apologise in advance if I am wrong.

Ian Bell
Australia
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RE: Specification of dates [6]
George Bennett
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Dear Ian,    thanks for your note.  The log-in for the My Heritage site does not include Australia in the long list of countries; hence my listing as Austrian.  This also stops me from getting a valid Quote for one of your charts. If you can fix the log-in I will re-enter and become Australian!

 

By the way is anything happening about increasing the choice of date specification?

 

Regards,  George. 

George Bennett
Austria
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RE: Specification of dates [7]
Ian Bell
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What about it MyHeritage developers. How can you leave a major country of about 25 million people off your list of countries? Will this be rectified ASAP?

BTW George I have nothing to do with MyHeritage. I am just a user of FTB like you

Ian Bell
Australia
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RE: Specification of dates [8]
Esther Weinberg
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Hi Ian,

Of course one may choose Australia from the drop down list of countries. Please see the screenshot below.

Please note, that Australia may be in the list at the top, as it is such a commonly used country.

Esther / MyHeritage Team 

 

Esther Weinberg
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RE: Specification of dates
Cynthia Brown
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I would also like to see some improvement in the way the program handles BC dates I have a couple of royal linneages which can be traced back that far and if you look at my family stats th earliest date is in the 500's I have lots of date sbefore then but they seem to be taken as mistakes.
Cynthia Brown
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RE: Specification of dates [2]
Esther Weinberg
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Hi Cynthia, 

Thank you for the suggestion.

Best Regards,

Esther / MyHeritage Team  

Esther Weinberg
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