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A light rant.
Eric Dalton
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I wish people would confirm/reject smart matches. It doesn't take long if you do it regularly, and it's just really annoying to have a bunch of matches sitting there that no one has responded to. I have ignored all trees which only have a basic account and can't confirm anyway. I've also ignored any tree which hasn't been touched since before 2011. And still I have 4382 matches which I've confirmed but haven't by others. Thanks for reading. End of rant.Smile
Eric Dalton
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RE: A light rant.
Charles Herndon
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Frankly, it does not bother me one bit if some other site confirms my matches, or not.  I either confirm or reject all my smartmatches and glean any info I can from the other site.  After that, who cares what the other site manager does with my offer of help to him/her?  Charles
Charles Herndon
Austin, TX
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RE: A light rant. [2]
Eric Dalton
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It's just irritating to have the list of all the family trees which have not been confirmed. It's a personal issue I guess, but I don't want to ignore them if we can still help each other. It also bothers me not to respond to the confirmations of other people. Like I said, it's not that hard and only takes a few seconds. I can understand that people wouldn't be responding if I had fifty trees like other people, but I only have one.
Eric Dalton
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RE: A light rant. [3]
Charles Herndon
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I understand how you feel.  It used to bother me, too.  But, many people are not avid genologists.  They are just doing a little to have fun and see what they can learn about their relatives before becoming bored with it and ignoring it.  Also, many people have jobs or other things to do and can't devote a great deal of time to genology, so they get to it when they can and when it crosses their mind to do so.  Fortunately, I'm now retired and have lots of time to spend on researching, so it's not a problem for me to confirm or reject matches.  But I've learned in my life that you should only worry about the things you have control over and let the rest of it go.  It makes you a lot happier!  Best wishes, Charles.
Charles Herndon
Austin, TX
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RE: A light rant.
Birgit Viola Storm
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You are right, but it is really annoying too that far to many matches are being published. Then one gets lazy and just leave it. I do not understand why we get all these obviously wrong matches. This is really something for Myheritage to work on and progress.
Birgit Viola Storm
Nordsjælland
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RE: A light rant. [2]
Birgitte Vange
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Hej Birgit Viola Storm,

Jeg er ny på MyHeritage og har fået beskeder om, at der er match mellem mit og dit (Storm-p's) stamtræ.

Men jeg kan kun godkende matches hvis jeg opgraderer til Premium - det havde jeg ikke lige tænkt mig at gøre umiddelbart. Du har øjensynlig været med længe. Er du tilfreds med sitet og programmet?

Og hvordan er vi i familie?

De bedste hilsener

Birgitte Vange, Odense

birgittevange@dadlnet.dk 

Birgitte Vange
Danmark
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RE: A light rant. [3]
Birgit Viola Storm
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Hej Birgitte,

 Pudsigt du spørger! Jeg har netop ved seneste match udskrevet siden efter at have bekræftet den for selv at finde ud af, præcis hvordan familien hænger sammen. Umiddelbart kan jeg nemlig ikke se det. Et familirtræ bliver meget hurtigt vidt forgrenet med personer, man ikke aner hvem er. Din mands familie, onkler og tanker mv., deres familier kommer automatisk med, og så gifter man sig til andre navne. Når jeg har bekræftet matvhen er det fordi mit slægtstræ kom op med samme person og data, men lige hvordan har jeg ikke lige haft tid til at udforske. Det vil jeg dog gøre ved lejlighed, for jeg laver nemlig slægtsbøger i et helt andet program, som jeg har lavet og givet til mine børn. Her kommer alle "de uvedkommende" familiemedlemmer ikke med, kun personens egen gren, men det er jo smart nok, at man så kan vælge en bestemt gren og følge den. Det bliver dog meget hurtigt kompliceret, og som nu, så er det ofte svært at gennemskue lige hvordan familien er skruet sammen ude i de fjernere led, som sådan set ikke har noget med ens egen familie at gøre. Når jeg finder ud af det skal jeg sende dig en mail, jeg har bare ikke tid lige i øjeblikket. mvh Birgit

 

Birgit Viola Storm
Nordsjælland
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RE: A light rant. [2]
Cindy Reynolds
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nothing on this site seems to work like it suppose to....I try to answer people but most of the time my smart matches wont even work....and 80% of the time they are wrong anyway....so it is no wonder people are just ignoring them half the time!!
Cindy Reynolds
Illinois
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RE: A light rant. [3]
Deleted member
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I agree with all the ranters.I will not agree or disagree any more matches,it is a waste of time.
Deleted member
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RE: A light rant. [4]
Eric Dalton
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Doesn't it annoy you just having it right there on your homepage telling you that you have names to confirm? It really annoys me, for the same reason it annoys me to have a bunch of names just dangling out there waiting for confirmation from others. Hard to believe it doesn't bother other people.
Eric Dalton
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RE: A light rant. [5]
Shelly Weiner
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What annoys me more is that I have almost 5000 matches -- which started out at probably 10,000 matches until I rejected the rest (at 2 clicks per reject). Yell

Developers really need to either make it more user-friendly or allow us to turn it off if we want.

Shelly Weiner
Henderson, NV
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RE: A light rant. [6]
Michael Giblin
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I agree it is a feature we shold be able to turn off.

Im nearly redy to turn off My heritage there are alteratives. 

Michael Giblin
Gold Coast
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RE: A light rant. [7]
Ilana Bierman
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Dear Michael,

Thank you for writing in our forum.

If you do not want to receive more Smart Matches, you can dissable this feature. To do so, please open your Family Tree Builder, enter to Family Tree > Smart Matches, click on Smart Matches settings link, and disable the matches.

Furthermore, please note that you can ignore Smart Matches of any specific tree or person. For that please follow these steps:

To ignore the Smart Matches of a specific tree: 1. Enter to Family Tree > Smart Matches 2. Organize the matches by Family Tree 3. Click on the button 'View Matches' located next to the one of the matches of the tree that you wan to ignore.  4. Select Ignore this tree

To ignore the Smart Matches of a specific person of the tree: 1. Enter to Family Tree > Smart Matches 2. Organize the matches by Person 3. Click on the button View Matches located next to the one of the matches of the tree that you wan to ignore. 4. Select Ignore this tree

Hope this helps. Please feel free to contact me directly to the email: support@myheritage.com for further comments or questions.

Best regards, Ilana

Ilana Bierman
Venezuela
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RE: A light rant. [8]
Tom Gray
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A year ago, Ilana wrote,

Furthermore, please note that you can ignore Smart Matches of any specific tree or person. For that please follow these steps:

To ignore the Smart Matches of a specific tree: 1. Enter to Family Tree > Smart Matches 2. Organize the matches by Family Tree 3. Click on the button 'View Matches' located next to the one of the matches of the tree that you wan to ignore.  4. Select Ignore this tree

To ignore the Smart Matches of a specific person of the tree: 1. Enter to Family Tree > Smart Matches 2. Organize the matches by Person 3. Click on the button View Matches located next to the one of the matches of the tree that you wan to ignore. 4. Select Ignore this tree

I would love to be able to ignore Smart Matches as she describes, but in my FTB (V6.0.0.5638) I can't even find those controls.  In the Overview Tab, I can select to organize by Person or Family Tree but there is no "Ignore this tree" function anywhere that I can find. 

Tom Gray
Canada
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RE: A light rant. [8]
Michael Giblin
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Ilana,

You are missing the point.

(1) Smart matches in FTB is not a feature you and I would want to turn off.

We grow our tree by viewing matches in FTB and by using the merge function (or manually), we add names, additional details, correct details in our tree the whole purpose.

 

(2) Smart Matches via Web my bigest gripe it's not currently synced to FTB so we still have to go through the above step in (1) to grow our tree.

Only usefull purpose now is alert us to Smart Matches in FTB so we can process as in step (1).

It seemes to me smart matches on the web are there to make our home page look good with all the activity.

(3) Ignoreing Smart Matches Via Web yes I know process View Matches>Ignore this Tree> (you conveniently omittted) Ignore all Smart Matches>You have chosen to Ignore..  steps.

I use both a 3G and 4G wireless conection on the 3G there is sometimes 15sec lag between all 4 steps above multiply this by hundreds of Matches, usually for just 1 person, that are are so ridiculously wrong its a hell of a waste of time.

I have better things to do with my time like growing my family trees.

Dose My Heritage ever to do Beta testing before releasing software to members?

Im Currently trialing a Beta Firefox (V11 code name Aurora) on my HTC Desire HD and its most stable browser coincidently to view and processes My Heritage Web based Smart Matches  remember I chose to use this beta verson of my own free will, somthing I cannot say for web based smart matches.

I guess an easy way out is to allow us to roll back to version FTBv5 untill FTBv7 is released later this year. 

Mike 

Michael Giblin
Gold Coast
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RE: A light rant. [9]
Ilana Bierman
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Dear Michael,

Thanks again for writing.

Smart Matches hasn't change between version FTB v6 and FTB v5. In fact, it has been the same function long before FTB v6 and FTB v5.

Today we have not achieved full synchronization between the Family Tree Builder and the WEB. The communication between the FTB and the web interface can go only in one direction: from the FTB to the WEB. We are aiming to achieve full synchronization soon, but please note that there are many details and aspects to be taken in count, reason why it is taking so long: we are making the change detailed and responsibly.

Again, thank you so much for your suggestions. I will make sure they get to the reight hands.

Many thanks,

Ilana

Ilana Bierman
Venezuela
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RE: A light rant. [9]
Michael Giblin
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Ilana.

FTBv5 did not have the WEB BASED SMART MATCHING of VTBv6

Smart matching in FTBv5 only occours locally in FTB on individual by individual basis upon clicking symbol on their profile.

Something we still need to do using FTBv6 if we want to update and build our Tree, because someone in product development neglected to include Sync between the WEB and FTB.

Another thought re Smart matching in FTB the symbol colour could change from current

green = there are matches.  to also include;

red = matches processed.

Another thought re processing Web Based Smart Match/s for only one or two persons (fit's on typical wide screen).

The VIEW MATCH step could be bypassed by showing expanded full details immediatly with

CONFIRM>   REJECT>    IGNORE TREE>  buttons     NEEDING ONLY ONE CLICK

Remember we have opportunity to undo the command just completed or by later going to Confirmed, Rejected, and Ingnored Tree lists for any specific tree to undo a previous command.

As noted in previous rant these single person matches are usually so wrong. Would speed up processing immenseley.

It's no secret I have stopped my membership rollover and have been advised a full rufund is due. Also I have just paid AU$95 for FTMv12 and 6 months access to Ancestry.com.au,  I don't have a problem paying for something that works, My Heritage is broken right now and you will be driving away many more supporters.

Will be advantage in be able to link into Ancestry trees that are identified by the RESEARCH function in FTB of which full details can only be accessed with a membership to Ancestry.com.

It's ironic, the part of VTBv6 I most despise, is the WEB BASED SMART MATCHING it's still available to me, a non financial member.

I'm now in the catagory of persons whom are not confirming smart matches that other members are spending many hours to process, reading other rants on fourm, this annoys many other correspondants.

Michael

 

Michael Giblin
Gold Coast
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RE: A light rant. [11]
Michael Giblin
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Ilana,

You are right smart matching within Family Tree Builder FTB versions has not changed, that is u click on the smart match icon on each idividuals profile.

Did you read my comment re changing icon colour on indivduals profile page when the matches have been confirmed?.

Online Smart Matching  was introduced with FTBv6

I read you are attemting to implement full synchronazation between FTB and WEB, for FTBv7 (quoteing you) "detailed and responsibly"

Why was this detail and responsibility overlooked in implementing FTBv6?

I still prefer FTB over FTM.

Ancestry.com.au are prolific advertisers on both Australian and New Zealand  (just been there) television, while you are still sorting the WEB based smart matching FTB sync problem you are potentially driving even more customers towards Ancestry. 

 Michael 

Michael Giblin
Gold Coast
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RE: A light rant. [12]
Ilana Bierman
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Dear Michael,

Thanks again for your response. 

As I wrote before that Smart Matches work the same between FTB v5 and FTB v6. The last change we perfomed on the Smart Matches features (which is probably the change you mean) was done around a year ago and was the introducion of the Enhanced Smart Matches. Please read more information about the Smart Matches in the link below:

What's new in the New Enhanced Smart Matches™?

I hope this clarifies. Please do not hesitate to contact me for any further questions or comments, and thanks again for sharing your thoughts, we really appreciate this type of dialogue with our users since it help us understand your needs and get better with time.

Many thanks,

Ilana 

Ilana Bierman
Venezuela
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RE: A light rant. [9]
Ilana Bierman
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Dear Michael,

Thank you so much. Your comments are well said, and we really appreciate that you are takign the time to describe your impressions and we are taking your sugestions seriously as a improvement opportunity.

The only thing I do not understand is: why would you like to go back to FTBv5? How is that related to your observations about the Smart Matches feature on the Family Site?

I look forward for your reply.

Many thanks,

Ilana

MyHeritage.com Support

Ilana Bierman
Venezuela
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RE: A light rant. [2]
Eric Dalton
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You appear to be from Scandinavia with Scandinavian names likely on your tree. I have a few Scandinavian names on my tree and not one match among them has been correct. I am afraid that SM may not do well with Scandinavian names. Just a hunch anyway.
Eric Dalton
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RE: A light rant. [3]
Michael Giblin
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I seem to have that same problem with Scandanavian and German names in my trees.
Michael Giblin
Gold Coast
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RE: A light rant. [3]
Birgit Viola Storm
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Oh, thats really re-assuring! You are right, I'm Danish
Birgit Viola Storm
Nordsjælland
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