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Person comparison issue
Rolf Bäckström
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After doing quite a number of Smart Matches it has become obvious that the new software suffers from the same issue as before but now the problem is even worse. At least in Sweden it is common that a person has several given names. This fact seems to give problems to the comparison process. What happens is that when there are several persons with different first forname but the same second forname, they are mixed up in a strange way, ie. that the wrong pair of persons are compared. Even if you know it, there is nothing you can do about it, just decline the match. Just looking at the facts presented, it is diffiicult to understand why the system has come to this conclusion. Just family name and the second forname match, but all dates do not match.  
Rolf Bäckström
Finland
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RE: Person comparison issue
Esther Weinberg
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Hi Rolf, 

thank you for writing to us.

Can you please give me a specific example, so that we can look into this issue?

Best Regards, Esther / MyHeritage Team 

Esther Weinberg
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RE: Person comparison issue [2]
Rolf Bäckström
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Just to be sure I want to mention that I have sent a number of direct emails to you, because I had no easy way of attaching the screenshots to the messages of the MyHeritage message system without loosing the accuracy of the screenshots. Today I sent a new email again, because I found some new findings regarding this issue. Could you please acknowledge you have received them?

Regards

Rolf

Rolf Bäckström
Finland
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RE: Person comparison issue [2]
Rolf Bäckström
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To make things a little bit easier, I have taken a screenshot of a typical situation. Unfortunately I was not able to send attached to this message so I address it as an email by esther.weinberger@myheritage.com and hope for the best. If you can you can attach to this forum yourself.

Regards

Rolf

 

Rolf Bäckström
Finland
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RE: Person comparison issue [2]
Rolf Bäckström
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Your request is a tough one to fulfill. I will make a first attempt, so please come back to me, if it is not sufficient. This is a much more common phenomena than you think and it is not even new. These examples came through a Smart Matches email from Sune Lindquist, which asked me to approve matches of the following persons: Andreas Erici Ericus Uranius Spaak, Andreas Ericus Uranius Spak, Mattias Mathias Mattsson Norenius, Kristina Christina Caméen, Birgitta Norenius (född Arvidsdotter Roman), Erik Olovsson Spaak, Catharina Chatarina Forsaeus (född Spaak), Anna Camoenia, Anna Erlandsdotter Norenia, Brigitta Birgitta (Britta) (Brita) Gudmunsson (född Persdotter Bose), Christina Kristina Carlberg (född Olofsdotter Spaak), Mattias Mathias Mattsson Norenius, Erlandus Gudmundi, Catharina Chatarina Forsaeus (född Spaak), Andreas Erici Uranius, Maria Malin Kaxe (född Svensdotter), Olaus Kaxe, Arvid Matsson Noreen, Anna Eriksdotter Gudmunsson (född Kaxe), Johan Börjesson Carlberg, Petrus Erici Uranius, Göran Sandersson Wahlenberg och Erland Gudmundi Erlandus Gudmunsson

A few of the first ones matched well, but then the overwhelming majority ended up in wrong matches. It worth to note, though, that most of the right persons are listed, they are just wrongly matched by the system. These particular names came up with a number of other family trees and all had the same problems. One problem is that the information from this time period is highly unreliable and people seem to have named themselves in many different ways (e.g. Brigitta, Birgitta, Britta, Brita). Also there was a prevailing fashion of using a latin or biblical form of the name (e.g. Erici instead of Erik, Petrus instead of Peter, respectively). Also some people sometimes used a name from his/her father, like Svensdotter or Gudmujndsson. When I child died in his childhood, it was normal that the same name was passed on to another son, born later. This could happen several times. Of all these reasons, there are probably duplicates among the people listed above, which are hard to catch, as helpful dates seem to be missing in many cases. 

It will be interesting to see what you can do about this one!  I have tried to pass on many comments through David Horowitz, more or less trying to encourage you to develop the Smart Matches algorithms considerably, because there are so many issues, big and small, associated with it.

Regards

Rolf

Rolf Bäckström
Finland
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RE: Person comparison issue [3]
Esther Weinberg
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Hi Rolf, 

You can write to me at esther@myheritage.com.

That would be the best.

Esther / MyHeritage Team  

Esther Weinberg
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RE: Person comparison issue
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I have just been rejecting those faulty matches.  I considered tightening criteria, but that, too, has disadvantages, considering the variety in spellings over the centuries.
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RE: Person comparison issue [2]
Debra (Debby) Wannell
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I am having same problem, all the right people, but matched wrong, brothers matched from other site are mis-matched with brothers on my site, so have wrong wife, children etc....., any word on how to fix this yet?

Regards Debby

Debra (Debby) Wannell
Townsville
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RE: Person comparison issue [3]
Aviv Ben-Arie
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Hi Debra,

Thank you for writing to us. 

Can you please give me specific examples so we will be able to further investigate this issue?

Regards,

Aviv

MyHeritage.com Team  

Aviv Ben-Arie
Israel
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RE: Person comparison issue [3]
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Just reject the wrong matches and cofirm the right ones.  A lot of work & aggravation, but genealogy is full of those!
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RE: Person comparison issue [4]
Athol Geoffrey Stewart
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Member wrote:
Just reject the wrong matches and cofirm the right ones.  A lot of work & aggravation, but genealogy is full of those!

My problem is not quite the same, though I am sure it is shared by many if not most.

I am working with Family Tree Builder. and most of my Smart Matches come from family.

And most of them are correct matches; yes, it is the same person and most of the details match.

BUT, often there is some mis-matching of the details.

A different spelling of a name, a differing date of death. I want to confirm the Smart Match, to let my relation know that we have the same person on our tree. But just to 'confirm' the match without comment would leave the other site manager thinking that we agreed on all the detail. So I have gone to the trouble and effort to send an e-mail noting the discrepancies.

Since most of these are noted in the yellow panel at the bottom of the 'matching' page in FBT, why can't I attach that to the confirmation?

Or even just a 'Comments' box where I could write a paragraph to advise my relation of the discrepancies.

Since some of them are members of my site I could just refer THEM to the appropriate person's entry, with a note to 'please note discrepancies and advise if my data needs updating'.

I don't want to use the collaboration feature in the website as I believe it won't sync back to FBT.

Athol Geoffrey Stewart
Australia
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RE: Person comparison issue [5]
Aviv Ben-Arie
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Hi Athol,

Thank you for writing to us.

I  saw that in other forum threads you made a few additional suggestions regarding Smart Matches. I will forward all these to our development team, as they are all good helpful suggestions. 

 

Regards,

Aviv

MyHeritage.com Team  

Aviv Ben-Arie
Israel
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