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Children from previous relationships - showing the difference
Angela Kumar
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I would like an option in FTB to show only one person in a married couple as the parent of a child, without automatically linking the other marriage partner as the child's parent.

Parents don't always come in neat sets - a child may have been from a previous relationship. That relationship may not have been a marriage. If children could be shown as linked to just one person out of a couple, or two separate people, this would allow for different circumstances.

At the moment any child added is automatically assigned to both partners or has to have a separate entry as an unrelated person. Neither of these options gives everyone an accurate place on a family tree.

Angela Kumar
Northants., England
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RE: Children from previous relationships - showing the difference
Colin A Rout
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If you know the one parent add an unknown parent then add child, if you already have the child on the tree, create a partner for the parent then attach the child to these parents. All children have 2 parents. A child is not automatically added to the parents it is the editor that adds it to a family.
Colin A Rout
Langoelan
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RE: Children from previous relationships - showing the difference [2]
Angela Kumar
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Thanks for your suggestions - I do, of course, realise that in actuallity a child has two parents but on my family tree what I would like to show is a clear distinction between natural parent and step-parent.

I have, for example, tried to set up an entry where the wife of an existing married couple has a child from a previous relationship. Her husband would be the step-father of that child, another man the natural father. The natural father is entered and shown as a 'Spouse' of the woman but her husband can not be shown as 'Step-father'. So, even though the married couple brought the child up the chart shows them as being childless. The facts are right but the story it tells is not!

Obviously, I can add notes to that effect in another section but it would be helpful to have a 'step-parent' indicator as well as natural or adopted parent options.

Angela Kumar
Northants., England
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RE: Children from previous relationships - showing the difference [3]
Jenny Trapp
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I agree 100% with this. Especially in this day and age, families do not come in nice neat little packages. My sister and I, for example, are the producs of 2 seperate biological fathers but the same biological mother. It was my bio father, however, that raised us BOTH along with our bio mother. In other words, he adopted my sister. The only way that I am able to show this in my family tree is to say that both my father AND mother ADOPTED her -- when putting this information into the book or other features it is misleading because it appears to be saying that my sister is NOT a biological relative of our shared (bio) mother. In addition, when displaying my mother's decendant tree, it appears as though she has 3 children instead of 2 (and looks like I have 2 sisters instead of 1) because it displays my sister TWICE -- once with our mother's marriage to her first husband and once for her marriage to her second husband (my father, who adopted this child).

The same issue is occurring with my nephew, who's bio dad and adopted dad are different, and there are multiple other children from the union of HIS adopted father and bio mother (i.e. 1/2 siblings) (AND his full sister was never adopted by His adopted father) -- again it shows him on there twice so that it appears that my sister had 7 children instead of 6 -- it is showing as 2 from first husband and 5 completely seperate children from the second union --- it SHOULD show 2 from first, 1 of which is linked to second through paternal adoption, and 4 additional from second union. Yes, confusing but ACURATE!

Jenny Trapp
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RE: Children from previous relationships - showing the difference [4]
Angela Kumar
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I'm sure many people have similar problems when entering family members. With 'Family Tree Builder' I find it difficult to show links to people correctly unless they fall into the conventional categories. Surely it is not that unusual for the parents of a child to be unattached, or perhaps not to have shared a significant relationship, and it's certainly not unusual for a couple to bring up a child together who is biologically related to only one of them.

Family trees can be confusing at times, we all know that, but as Jenny said, we want them to be accurate. The story they tell is not just for the person who enters the details but for others who may look at it now or in the future.

So, my product suggestion would be to have more flexible options to choose from when attaching individuals and more ways to indicate complex relationships clearly within any family group.

Angela Kumar
Northants., England
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RE: Children from previous relationships - showing the difference [5]
Jenny Trapp
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Colin's earlier rather snarky response was not appreciated. As Angela stated, whereas it is true that biologically a child has a mother and father that child could be the result of a one night stand or artificial insemination or even a rape, thus the father is never known -- and especially in the case of the latter, I'm sure that a blaring reminder of this on a family tree would be unwanted.

Additionally, I have (not surprisingly) found an issue with entering another type of non-traditional family. My 1st cousin and her partner are married and have children together but they are both female. The tree finder does not allow me to accuratly enter this marriage. No matter how often I enter that they are both female it indicates one as male and as the "husband" and "father" of which, in this case, there is not one -- they should both be marked as "wife" and "mother".

With all these issues it seems that myheritage.com apparently does not approve of non-traditional families (i.e., non-marriage families, men or women raising children that are not biologically theirs, same sex coupes, families produced by artificial insemination, and single parent families). I do hope that they will open their eyes  and resolve these issues soon because so many of their other features are excellent.

Jenny Trapp
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RE: Children from previous relationships - showing the difference [6]
Daniel D.
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Dear Jenny and Angela,

Thank you both for your lovely suggestions and we are so sorry for the frustration you are feeling. It is not very common for us to receive such feedbacks especially about the relationships feature.

I've forwarded the suggestions for our developers regarding the customizing of your relationships and making it more flexible for in-depth descriptions, hopefully the developers will be able to incooperate this option.

Regarding the problem with the same-sex marriages, for all I know we have changed it so it will display "spouse" instead of husband or wife. I would appreciate it if you could send us a screenshot of that location which shows the wrong text so we could fix it for you.

We are trying really hard to support all kinds of relationships and hopefullly we will be able to do so for you. 

Please, let me know if you need more inforamtion, assistance or you have additional suggestions. 

Daniel D.
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