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Importing Pre-Tagged Photos
Ian Johnson
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Are tags supposed to be imported along with photos?  Nearly all of my photos on my computer are tagged with the names of the people in them.  It would be nice if these tags would be read and added by My Heritage when the photos are uploaded.  If it is suppose to do this already, I haven't seen it.  It is a fundamental feature of any photo sharing site.

 

Ian Johnson
Burbank, CA
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RE: Importing Pre-Tagged Photos
Uri Gonen
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First, we need to understand what you mean by “my photos on my computer are tagged with the names of the people in them”. How did you tag these photos? Did you tag them in Family Tree Builder by MyHeritage.com, in some other genealogy software or by some other means? If you are creating your tree adding photos and tagging them in Family Tree Builder then when you publish the tree from Family Tree Builder to your family site, the tagging information is published to the site as well. If you are importing a GEDCOM file and then uploading the photos to the site separately, then the tagging information that might have been saved by another genealogy software is not loaded to the site since the connection between the GEDCOM file and the photos is lost.
Uri Gonen
Israel
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RE: Importing Pre-Tagged Photos [2]
Ian Johnson
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I'm referring to the standard exif, iptc or xmp tags used by photo editing and gallery programs. EXIF contains info saved by cameras listing date, exposure, lens, etc.  IPTC is used for user-added tags like names, places, events, captions.  XMP is a tag standard created by Adobe and embraced by Microsoft which can save more complicated data like locations of faces-boxes and names associated with them.

I use Windows Live Photo Gallery to tag my photos with names, places, events, etc.  These kinds of tags would show up in the general Tags section, I know they wouldn't work for a direct "People Tag".  Although Windows Live Photo Gallery has a face tag feature similar to My Heritage.  It draws a box around a face and associates that to a name, and saves the position/tag data to XMP.

If My Heritage could read and use tags already added by users using their photo library programs, it would save a lot of duplicated effort.  I can deal with re-doing th face tagging, the Heritage interface for this makes it easy to do.

Ian Johnson
Burbank, CA
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RE: Importing Pre-Tagged Photos [3]
Uri Gonen
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We read EXIF information about the photo but we currently do not read the tagging information. Even if we do (and we might in the future), it will still be impossible to safely connect the name tag you added to the photo with a particular individual in the tree. There may not be a perfect match in the name, or there could be an ambiguity where more than one individual matches the name tag. So it will be quite a challenge to come up with an easy to use interface for connecting between name tags in EXIF data in the photos and the correct individuals in the tree. Having said that, challenges are never something we shy away from here so we’ll so some brainstorming and see what we can come up with.
Uri Gonen
Israel
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RE: Importing Pre-Tagged Photos [4]
Ben Domenico
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I am still baffled by what you do and don't do with the internal exif information.   To check it, I just uploaded a photo in which the date taken is 1924.   When it gets into myheritage.com, the date shows as 1920.   It looks to me like you try to mine information from the file name and ignore internal information about the photo.   On the other hand, it seems that myheritage sometimes does get the date out of the internal EXIF information.  I strongly recommend using the internal title/caption/description/date taken/location and so forth if it is there.  The fact that it is there shows that people have taken the time to enter the information so it is especially valuable.   I understand the difficulty of getting people tags into the photo, but title and date are simple and straightforward and should be used.
Ben Domenico
Denver, CO
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RE: Importing Pre-Tagged Photos [5]
Ilana Bierman
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Dear Ben,

Thank you for writing.

MyHeritage.com has the hability to read EXIF info of pictures. This info is included in the section Photos & Videos of you site, in the description located on the right side of each photo.

Currently this information is not being used for any purposes on the site, but I agree with you and think that it could be a great idea to get this info for different purposes on the family site.

Thank you so much for your suggestion! I have forwarded it to our technical and it will be taken in count for further improvements of the system.

Please do not hesitate to contact us directly to: support@myheritage.com for further suggestions, comments or questions.

Best Regards,

Ilana

 

Ilana Bierman
Venezuela
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RE: Importing Pre-Tagged Photos [4]
Ian Johnson
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I see how connecting imported tags to the tree would be a challenge, but I think including these tags in the general tags field, and importing captions shouldn't be too difficult if you are already reading EXIF. 

 These would relate more to the social/photo sharing aspect of the site than the genealogical.

Ian Johnson
Burbank, CA
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RE: Importing Pre-Tagged Photos [5]
Ben Domenico
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Hi again,

I still think it would be easy to use the date and title information if it is there.   It it's not there, then do what you do now and try to pull it out of the file name.   After all, even facebook has figure out how to do this.   It can't be too hard.  

On the other hand, I understand the difficulty with people identification but that is not an excuse for not using the embedded date and title information if it is there.

Please consider this soon.   I was buoyed with hope when I noticed the recent helpful changes regarding attaching photos to events, but disappointed that you still do not use the date and title in the name.

-- Ben 

Ben Domenico
Denver, CO
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RE: Importing Pre-Tagged Photos [6]
Ilana Bierman
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Dear Ben,

Thank you so much for your suggestion. I will be sure to forward it to the appropriate department for consideration.

Please do not hesitate to contact us directly to: support@myheritage.com if you have any other ideas as we do value such input from our users.

Best regards,Ilana

 

Ilana Bierman
Venezuela
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