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Merge duplicate individuals
Andrew Witham
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After importing and merging a large gedcom file into my existing project I hace some duplicate individuals.

How can I merge them together without losing the data?

Andrew Witham
Galt, CA
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals
Alva Balter
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Here it is October of 2010. Seems merge feature has not changed. Question, what exactly does "shortly" mean? 
Alva Balter
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [2]
Noam
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Hi Alva,

 

I understand your frustration, the implementation of new features take a while,

especially since we are always improving all aspects of the online site and our software, Family Tree Builder. 

 

Verion 5 of Family Tree Builder will include a tool for finding duplicates. This version is now being tested, and will be released in the beginning of 2011.

 

We will consider adding an automatic merge tool to the version after that.

 

Regards,

Noam \ MyHeritage Team

 

Noam
Israel
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals
Andrew Witham
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My Heritage replied privately to my original message that this might be offered in the future if there was demand.  I have GEDs with 36,000 and 23,000 names to merge - and removing over 1,000 overlaps manually is not practical, neither is mannually comparing and adding the data from those 1,000 overlaps, and then manually deleting them from one tree.

 I hope that My Heritage looks at adding this soon, as I really don't want to have to learn another software package and move everything.

Here's hoping....

Andrew Witham
Galt, CA
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [2]
John Webb
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I am very grateful for a free program, but I would like to suggest that using the term "Merge" is a poor choice, If I have to go back and manually remove 100's of records it really is more of an "Add" feature.

 I would love to see a true "Merge" function, but until you reach that point I would suggest you change it to "Add" to avoid confusion.

John Webb
Mashpee, MA
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [3]
Esther Weinberg
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Hi!

Thank you for writing to us.

You are correct, that this is a very important feature that we are working on. 

We intend to provide more advanced features for merging GEDCOM files and consolidating duplicates, in the future.

Best Regards,

Esther / MyHeritage Team  

Esther Weinberg
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [2]
Elsebeth Paikin
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I have the same problem and as there is no way to do it in FamilyTreeBuilder I bought the Complete Genealogy Builder - but I have not found it useful.

Instead I have now exported two projects to GedCom and imported them in my previous genealogy program (The Master Genealogist) and there performed the merging and comparison.

But I do sincerely hope that the merge-feature will very soon be incorporated in the Family Tree Builder.

Best regards

Elsebeth

 

 

Elsebeth Paikin
Denmark
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [3]
Noam
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Hi Elsebith,

 

Thank you for your feedback!

I will forward it to our development team.

 

Regards,

Noam \ MyHeritage Team 

Noam
Israel
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals
Kayla Willian
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I agree, that is a feature i really with the program included, i have so many duplicates from different gedcoms and even if i go through and deleate each one sometimes it still messes my tree up.
Kayla Willian
Pittsburg, TX
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals
Noam
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Hi Andrew,

 

You will have to delete one of the duplicates manually. Chose the instance with less data, copy any data it has to the other instance, and then delete.

You can later attach the right link between the branches, by right clicking on the remaining card, and choosing parents > attach parents (for example).

 

Regards,

Noam \ MyHeritage.com 

Noam
Israel
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [2]
Eu
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Is this still the case? I presume that if FTB is capable of merging smart matches with other trees, it can merge smart matches within a tree, right?
Eu
Sydney, Australia
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [3]
Noam
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Yes, this is still the case. FTB 7.0 has a feature for finding duplicates automatically in your tree, but you will still have to merge them manually.

 

I will give our Product team a reminder of how much the merge feature is missed by our good users.

 

Noam 

Noam
Israel
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [4]
Eu
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Thanks for that, Noam.

Wow, so this has been on the todo list for at least 3 years??

Btw, the reason why I've ended up with duplicates is because FTB itself has been creating them when I use the tree merge function. If the other tree is set for privacy over the living, FTB replaces their names with 'unknown' or '?', even if I'm a member of their family sites and I can see their full names on the screen. I hope, by this you don't tell me to take careful note of them and type them out when FTB is done messing things up, as MH does here:  http://www.myheritage.com/help/2010/10/how-do-i-merge-duplicates-in-my-family-tree-builder-project/

I sure hope it doesn't take another 3 years to fix a problem the software itself has been creating.

Thanks again, Andre

Eu
Sydney, Australia
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [5]
Noam
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Hi Andre,

 

I would like to address several points in your post:

 

1. Privacy: you merged a gedcom file into your project and found many individuals without firt names = privatized. This is not something FTB has done, these individuals were privatized in the gedcom originally. If you want to get a gedcom with all the names, you will have to ask the relevant site manager to send it to you, and this time choose not to hide living individuals.

 

2. You are correct in that FTB's merge trees feature does not resolve duplicates. To avoid problems with this in the future I would suggest merging smaller branches of the other tree, were you are sure all individuals do not exist in your tree already. Another option is to merge the information you are missing via Smart Matches with the other tree.

 

3. Our wishlist is very long indeed. We have many new features in mind and limited resources. But I can assure you that we are improving our product every day. For example we have just released FTB 7.0, with full support of Unicode charachters and full synchonization with the family site. 

 

Thank you for your patience,

 

Noam 

Noam
Israel
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [6]
Eu
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Thanks for the timely response, Noam, and for addressing my concerns. Unfortunately you didn't. Allow me to go backward in that order:

3. I am using FTB 7; the bidirectional sync is great and a much needed feature for a long time.

2. The tree merging function I'm using *is* in the smart matches process in FTB, and only merges one family unit at a time by design.

1. No, I didn't merge GEDCOM files, as stated above and in my previous posts I merged with smart matched trees via FTB.

Resources are limited everywhere; it's a matter of prioritization. A 'face cloud' is fancy trick, for instance, but far cry from being an essential functionality, like database (i.e. duplicate record) management. I'd suggest listening to your user base more closely (reading posts thoroughly includedp); they are your best salespeople.

Cheers, Andre

Eu
Sydney, Australia
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [7]
Noam
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Hi Andre,

 

When viewing a Smart Match, we will never let you see the first name of individuals that don't already exist in your tree with their full name. Otherwise users will be able to perform data mining on other trees, and breach the privacy of living individuals. There is a balance here between providing good research tools and protecting the privacy of our users.

The 'face cloud' is more than 4 years old. These days we are working mostly on historical records and research tools, but as I mentioned before I have sent your feedback (which I agree with) to our Product Team.

Noam 

Noam
Israel
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [8]
Eu
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Thanks for the prompt feedback and support once more, Noam.

PRIVACY If that's the intention (which I also agree with), then this may be a bug. I did have the people with their full name in my tree before merging, hence why the new nodes with [unknown] names are their duplicates (otherwise I'd just have new nodes with partial names that weren't anyone's duplicate, get it?).

In the meantime, can I at least bulk delete the duplicates or am I supposed to delete them one by one?

Finally, on the point of smart matching and merging within a single tree, I get what the complexity is. Copying over an individual from one tree to another is one thing (technically not exactly a merger), and merging nodes and attachments within a tree another thing entirely. It's easily solvable, though, by first allowing users to merge the data (much the same way FTB already does across trees), and then eliminating duplicate attachments. Some spurious attachments may remain, but we (users) can then prune them aided by the tree inconsistency tool.

Besides, just imagine a user creating a new node on the tree for a person who's already there (perhaps s/he forgot to search first), and FTB responding: "this person already seems to be on the tree, would you like to merge this data with his/hers?" ;)

Eu
Sydney, Australia
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [9]
Noam
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Hi again Andre,

It is possible that your tree is in one data langauge, and the matched tree is in a different data language, even though the names seem the same. I sould have to take a look at the other tree to be sure. If this is the case, FTB should still be smarter and detect this of course. I will send you a private message so you can give me the details if you want.

You can try to delete the duplicates by exporting to Excel (via the Edit menu), deleting the relevent lines and importing back. Back up your project first.

One final note: FTB already gives a warning if you try to add an individual who is already in your tree. It may not catch all cases though.

Noam 

Noam
Israel
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [10]
Eu
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Thanks, Noam. Sent you the details over email.

I suspect the problem arises because the names are not exactly the same in both trees. The reason for it is that one of the trees doesn't have the spouses of the family unit members it's matching, so their last names don't carry over. Again, a smart match on those would resolve it. Failing that, the unmatched living individuals should come unticked by default, or FTB risks (mis)leading the user down the garden path. In any case, the match between these 'unmatched' ones would be picked up at their own smart match (if you catch my drift).

For reference, I did try the Excel export/import. Didn't work for me; did it for you? All it did was to mess up the accented characters on my tree, as I described it here: http://www.myheritage.com/support-post-732621/bug-excel-import-cant-handle-accented-characters#posting732621

Eu
Sydney, Australia
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [2]
Jason Dunnett
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Hmmmm, I had the same question, wish there was a different answer.  :)

Maybe in a future update you could use the same programing you have for the "compare" ability and be able to apply that to the people in a tree and then use the step by step merge to join the 2 individuals. 

It would be great to search all my records and see if anyone is the same person, (found a few by accident, manually)

Jason Dunnett
Canada
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [3]
Syl
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Hello,

it's indeed sad that this combining feature is not available. However, I tried to outsmart it (but it didn't work, why?) by publishing both big family trees I have on the my heritage site. I hoped that than by means of smart-matches I could combine them both.

But in the smart matches my own second family tree doesn't show up. Why is that?

Thanks in advance,

Sylvia

Syl
Nederland
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [4]
sebastien hue
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Thanks for your continued interest in this topic. 

We're hard at work to bring you all these services but at the moment it is only possible to delete an extra individual or simply add infos manually .

 

Sebastien/ MyHeritage.com 

sebastien hue
Cincinnati, OH
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [5]
bbb
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The merge feature is definitely needed. For example in my family 2 siblings married other 2 siblings (a wife's sister married the husband's brother): and there is no way I can enter this correctly, I have to let go of one of the sibling links, because it wont let me merge, or create the link of being siblings or creat the link of marriage after the person data was entered.

Sebastian, the merge feature would solve this problem too.

Thanks

bbb
Providence, RI
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [6]
sebastien hue
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Bahar, 

You are right . That is something we are hard at work on and hope to remedy soon.  I will keep you posted!

 

 

Sebastien

sebastien@myheritage.com 

sebastien hue
Cincinnati, OH
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [7]
Tammy Harpenau
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I want to make sure I am clear on this. I just uploaded my gedcom from ancestry and have lost people(sort of). They have become disconnected from some branches but remain there on others. Ex: Mary M is in the tree still with her parents, spouse, children but was removed as the mother of her illigitimate son prior to her marriage. I also have sisters who married brothers of their stepfather's family...confusing enough for me to keep straight but now this program disconnected them from part of the tree. HOW DO I FIX THIS?? I have a ton of this type of thing w/census records attached to all of these people. I CAN NOT go through manually. If there is not a solution for merging or re-connecting I will have to look for another program. I was looking for an alternative to ancestry with a more searchable and comprehensive data structure. I uploaded gedcom for a free tree so I could decide if this is the better program before upgrading to pay for the service. I currently pay $30/mnth, ancestry has been great for gathering the info but has NO options for seeing all of that data other than by individual or pedigree.  That just does not cut it at this point in my research I need to be able to see people by region lived, originated from, place buried....please let me know if your program is capable of this and the merge before I delete my other tree and invest time and $ in this one.
Tammy Harpenau
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [8]
Esther Weinberg
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Hi Tammy,

Thank you for writing to us, and I am sorry that you are experiencing difficulties with this issue.

Your problem with broken and incorrect relationships that cannot be fixed in an online tree, is one that we are well aware of, and we are working on fixing. I really do apologize for the delay, but I have a workaround for you in the meantime.

I suggest that you export your tree to Family Tree Builder (the software on your computer), and then you can correct the tree there, and then re-export in back to your family site.

You should completely remove those people that there is a problem with, and then re-add them to your tree.

 Firstly, you can download Family Tree Builder from: http://www.myheritage.com/family-tree-builder

In Family Tree Builder, it is possible to detach existing relationships and attach new ones.

It is also possible to attach a person in your tree to another person or family, that already exist in the tree.

For example - If you have put a child under the wrong parents, you can right click on the child’s box,

go to Parents > Manage parents, detach the wrong parents and attach to the correct parents in your tree.

In this way, you can display a marriage between two family members who are already in the tree, an adoption of a child, etc.

To export your tree to Family Tree Builder, first open a browser and log into your Family Site on MyHeritage.com, then go to the Family Tree tab > Manage Trees in your Family Site. 

Click the ‘export GEDCOM’ link on top of your list of family trees. This will save your family tree  to your computer as a file with a .ged extension.

Once you have the file downloaded, and you have properly re-installed Family Tree Builder, you can double click on the GEDCOM file that you exported and it should open up automatically in Family Tree Builder. This should restore your entire project, except for the photos.

To export the gedcom file back to your computer, click on File > Export Gedcom. You can then re-import the Gedcom file into your family site under Family Tree > Manage Trees,  Import Gedcom.

Please let me know if you need any more help with this process.

Best Regards,

Esther / MyHeritage Team

 

 

Esther Weinberg
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [9]
Pieter Rossouw
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My message is to Esther. I have tried the regular support channels, but that does not seem to reach anyone.

Does it not concern you that your product is still unable to merge duplicate entries, despite the fact that a lot of users have been clamouring for this feature for years? Any free geni.com user is able to merge duplicate individuals online with a simple drag and drop. And you own that technology, yet we at MyHeritage have to be satisfied with .... waiting. I can not believe that we're still waiting for this. C'mon and sort it out already!

Pieter Rossouw
South Africa
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [10]
Esther Weinberg
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Hi Peter,

Thank you for writing to us.

In understand your frustration in that there is no great way to merge two individuals in Family Tree Builder.

The attach/detach feature is pretty close, and does help, but it is not a perfect solution.

http://www.myheritage.com/help/2010/06/how-do-i-use-the-attach-detach-feature-in-family-tree-builder/

Thank you for your suggestions for improvements.

Esther/ MyHeritage Team  

Esther Weinberg
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RE: Merge duplicate individuals [9]
Tammy Harpenau
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Ok, I am willing to go through that IF you can answer the rest of the ? Your program has the ability to pull regional data for the map/report functions. Can I input a city or county or  state and retrieve people with that area entered, then can I sort that data down by last res. or death or marriage or birth etc. Like an Excel formula..enter certain perameters and sort the data. I am Not a computer person so I am prob not using correct terms. Hope you understand. Example: I am visiting cemeteries in Monona cnty and would like a list  of all individuals that have that cnty attached by census or entered mannually by me for any reason. Ok, get that list and lot of them moved somewhere else later in life. So, need to sort the first list generated by last res listed Monona cnty. Same going to courthouses, historical soc. etc. for obits, marriage records, births...I need to find a program that can do this and also allow our families to view and contribute photos/stories online.

Thanks Tammy

Tammy Harpenau
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