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Entering stepchildren (?)
Alison Michelle Flores (Schmidt)
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I can't seem to figure out how to enter a child of only one parent.  I can only get a child to be entered as either natural or adopted of a married couple. How can I enter stepchildren (aka half brothers/sisters)?
Alison Michelle Flores (Schmidt)
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RE: Entering stepchildren (?)
Mark Lang
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Alison,

Step-Children or half-siblings are a relationship of blended families where a child maintains the relationship with at least one parent. In a computerised genealogical environment, children normally stay linked to their parents - FTB is no exception - because that is how they were born. To show links to step-children, please follow these help suggestions from the Help Centre.

Mark / MyHeritage Support

Mark Lang
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RE: Entering stepchildren (?) [2]
Mary (Trudy) Kiser
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Mark Lang wrote:
i went to "help centre"; there is no narrow blue rectangle.  when i click on more topics, it tells me that adding step children is not available at this time.  so, can a child be added to a married couple when only one is an actual parent?  i suppose i could add my husband's ex as a "partner" to my husband and then add the child; but i would rather not.
Alison,

Step-Children or half-siblings are a relationship of blended families where a child maintains the relationship with at least one parent. In a computerised genealogical environment, children normally stay linked to their parents - FTB is no exception - because that is how they were born. To show links to step-children, please follow these help suggestions from the Help Centre.

Mark / MyHeritage Support

Mary (Trudy) Kiser
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RE: Entering stepchildren (?) [3]
Noam
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At this time you will have to enter the child under his Natural parents.

 

We will add this feature in one of our upcoming versions.  

 

Regards,

Noam \ MyHeritage 

Noam
Israel
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RE: Entering stepchildren (?) [2]
Alison Michelle Flores (Schmidt)
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That might help for children of divorced parents  - however I still can't figure out how to enter a child who has unmarried natural parents (like the children I am trying to enter)? Especially if one natural parent married someone else - tt seems to only want to allow me to add the child to the married parents (not the actual parents)?  In other words I am having trouble attaching a child to an unmarried father and mother?
Alison Michelle Flores (Schmidt)
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RE: Entering stepchildren (?) [3]
C C
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Yes, I think this problem is a huge problem with this software.  It has many thoughtful feature but this is a glaring shortcoming.  Really bad, and shows lack of inclination to make a superior product.  And arguing that these relationships are not needed is telling customers that they're wrong and that they'll recieve the product the way that MyHeritage wants them to recieve and that they just need to adjust their way of thinking to the way MyHeritage says.  Huge hole in an otherwise good looking software.  I guess people vote with their money and MyHeritage believes they're making good enough money.
C C
Trussville, AL
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RE: Entering stepchildren (?) [4]
Sandra G. Kelly
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I have had the same problem.  I have found it very frustrating.  My sister has been married to a gentleman for 31 years.  She practically raised his 4 children.  However, there is not way to indicate that these are his biological ones and her step children.  Everyone understands the term "step-child" so I don't understand why we don't have the means to check step or biological.

I have found several areas that could be greatly improved in this software.  The way it prints out a book is totally rediculous.  Wasted pages and confusing wording.  

 

Sandi 

 

Sandra G. Kelly
Sylacauga, AL
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RE: Entering stepchildren (?) [5]
Lior Shaked
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Hi Sandra,

 Thanks for writing to us. 

Please take alook at this FAQ, I think that it will assist you:

How do I add adopted or step-children in Family Tree Builder?

Regarding the problems you have with the book report, I suggest to download the newest version of  Family Tree Builder from this link:

http://web009.myheritage.com/public/updates/1198/family_tree_builder_1198_cd.exe 

And create the tree there.

 If you need further assistance, please let me know.

Best Regards,

Lior

MyHeritage.com Team 

 

Lior Shaked
Israel
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RE: Entering stepchildren (?) [4]
Rhianna W
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I think there is a bit of a mistunderstanding here.

There is no problem to add children of all different types of relationships to the tree. You can add adopted children, step children, children when there was never a marriage between the parents. We don't discriminate. ;)

The question is HOW.

Family Tree Builder is designed a certain way - for the simple fact that when the developers wrote the program they had to choose one way to do things. They tried to decide the most suitable format for mapping out family trees, taking into consideration as many of the complexities of real life family situations as possible.

We definitely try/tried to make a superior software.:) Even if the software is considered the best on the market it doesn't necessarily mean it will have all the options that each of our users is looking for. We do our best to implement user suggestions whenever we can. As far as genealogy software goes though, Family Tree Builder is more flexible and offers a wider range of options in many things than most software.

Depending on the type of relationship you are looking to add, you might do things a little bit differently.

If the couple were never married: Add the mother and father. Define the relationship between the parents as "other, unknown, partners, friends" as you prefer. Then add the child.

If the couple were married and then one person remarried and you want to see the child from the previous marriage shown with the new family: Add the biological parents. Define the relationship between them as "divorced". Add the child. Go back to the person who remarried. Click on Edit > Spouses > Add Spouse. Add another spouse. Define the relationship between these spouses as married (or friends/partners as you prefer). Now go to the parent who you just added a second spouse to. Click on Edit > Children > ATTACH child. Select the child from the previous marriage and choose option three. Now the child will be shown with his mother/step-father or father/step-mother as is the case.

I think the misunderstanding comes in when someone has a situation where the mother/father of a child was never known, or as is sometimes the case we don't WANT to recognize the mother/father for various reasons. This happens and it's okay.

Sometimes we may want to enter a mother and her child without showing the father. Or enter a father and the child without showing the mother. The reasons for this are personal. And when it gets personal, I'm sorry to say, computer programs just don't cut it. This is the type of situation the program (because it is just a program after all) doesn't have the sophistication to deal with.

As far as the program is concerned there must always be a mother and father in order for there to be a child in the tree. And if you think about it, this is factually true as well. Because no matter what our personal issues may be with people in the tree, there will always be a mother and father whenever you have a child in the tree. Except in one case, I suppose, depending on your religious beliefs. :)

This is what Mark tried to explain ealier in the thread and which I suspect is creating the upset. No one is trying to say "This is how you HAVE to do things because this is the way we want them." There are a set of available options and we do our best to accommodate everyone and show everyone what they can do within the set. 

It's possible that none of this pertains to you and if that is the case, I would be happy to be corrected. I do hope, however, that the information above is useful to you. Your feedback is welcome.

Rhianna W
Tel Aviv, Israel
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RE: Entering stepchildren (?) [5]
Kenneth Rothschild
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I'm trying to set up my stepchildren into my family tree... 

      You quoted: Click on Edit > Children > ATTACH child to set up stepchildren...

I am unable to find "Edit" or even "ATTACH" anywhere...

Please advise...

Thank you, 

Kenneth

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I think there is a bit of a mistunderstanding here.

There is no problem to add children of all different types of relationships to the tree. You can add adopted children, step children, children when there was never a marriage between the parents. We don't discriminate. ;)

The question is HOW.

Family Tree Builder is designed a certain way - for the simple fact that when the developers wrote the program they had to choose one way to do things. They tried to decide the most suitable format for mapping out family trees, taking into consideration as many of the complexities of real life family situations as possible.

We definitely try/tried to make a superior software.:) Even if the software is considered the best on the market it doesn't necessarily mean it will have all the options that each of our users is looking for. We do our best to implement user suggestions whenever we can. As far as genealogy software goes though, Family Tree Builder is more flexible and offers a wider range of options in many things than most software.

Depending on the type of relationship you are looking to add, you might do things a little bit differently.

If the couple were never married: Add the mother and father. Define the relationship between the parents as "other, unknown, partners, friends" as you prefer. Then add the child.

If the couple were married and then one person remarried and you want to see the child from the previous marriage shown with the new family: Add the biological parents. Define the relationship between them as "divorced". Add the child. Go back to the person who remarried. Click on Edit > Spouses > Add Spouse. Add another spouse. Define the relationship between these spouses as married (or friends/partners as you prefer). Now go to the parent who you just added a second spouse to. Click on Edit > Children > ATTACH child. Select the child from the previous marriage and choose option three. Now the child will be shown with his mother/step-father or father/step-mother as is the case.

I think the misunderstanding comes in when someone has a situation where the mother/father of a child was never known, or as is sometimes the case we don't WANT to recognize the mother/father for various reasons. This happens and it's okay.

Sometimes we may want to enter a mother and her child without showing the father. Or enter a father and the child without showing the mother. The reasons for this are personal. And when it gets personal, I'm sorry to say, computer programs just don't cut it. This is the type of situation the program (because it is just a program after all) doesn't have the sophistication to deal with.

As far as the program is concerned there must always be a mother and father in order for there to be a child in the tree. And if you think about it, this is factually true as well. Because no matter what our personal issues may be with people in the tree, there will always be a mother and father whenever you have a child in the tree. Except in one case, I suppose, depending on your religious beliefs. :)

This is what Mark tried to explain ealier in the thread and which I suspect is creating the upset. No one is trying to say "This is how you HAVE to do things because this is the way we want them." There are a set of available options and we do our best to accommodate everyone and show everyone what they can do within the set. 

It's possible that none of this pertains to you and if that is the case, I would be happy to be corrected. I do hope, however, that the information above is useful to you. Your feedback is welcome.

Kenneth Rothschild
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RE: Entering stepchildren (?) [6]
Esther Weinberg
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Hi Kenneth,

Thank you for writing to us.

The instructions that you are using are actually for trees that were created in the software Family Tree Builder. The tree that you are working on is a tree that is created online on the family site.

Please see the following post in our FAQ regarding this:

How do I add adopted or step-children to my online family tree?

Best Regards,

Esther / MyHeritage Team 

 

Esther Weinberg
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RE: Entering stepchildren (?) [5]
Justin Erikson
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I have managed to enter in a child for whom only one parent is known and in a relationship with the someone other than the child's other parent.  I did this by creating a placeholder parent then deleting them.  The trouble comes when I generate the family tree chart and the child is not shown on the chart but a line appears that goes to nowhere. The resulting chart is almost exactly what is needed, minus the fact that the child is missing from the end of the line.

See attachment.  There should be a child of Robyn (but not Maurice) at the end of the line.

I hope this problem may be addressed in a future version.

Thanks

Justin Erikson
Canada
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RE: Entering stepchildren (?) [6]
Lior Shaked
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Hi Justin,

Thanks for writing.

Please download the new version of Family Tree Builder from this link.

Try generating the chart again.

The problem should be fixed.

Best Regards,

Lior

MyHeritage.com team 

Lior Shaked
Israel
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