I have over 200 names 'pending confirmation' but when I go to do a match there is nothing there - just a blank.
It says "Smart Matches™ are currently being processed. Come back to this page soon to check for updates."
I left the computer on all night to see if it would process but no still over 200 to be processed.
I recently edited renamed and deleted trees so as to cut down on duplicate names, could the original names still be wanting to be matched even though names have been deleted?
This is very annoying as I like to keep my smart matches up to date. I now dont know if there are smart matches to be checked. and if there are any, where they are. There are so many showing 'NEW' that I have already gone into, but nothing to match. Please help.
The smart matches are generated when you make a change in your family tree and publish them to your website. The data will then be compared with over 25 million other family trees at MyHeritage . Due to the fact that this takes some time it will take 2-3 of days to collection of the data. Large family tree projects may take a week.
The smart matching technology is very dynamic. It happens that in this "intermediate period" webmasters make changes in their family trees and
remove individual cards and even entire trees. The result is that you have received a message that you have a smart match, but that the data has been removed. The result is an empty smart match.
Also you may wish to know that within the Family tree Builder Software the SmartMatch alorithms work differently to the online fmaily site and the matches are presented later than that on the online fmaily site. The reason is due to a lag in processing Smart Matches.
When you type the information into your tree (In Family tree Builder) we check to see if there are matches "ad-hoc" or "on the fly".
If there is a match, the green icon appears to indicate we've found a preliminary match. The actual matches usually take a few days to be processed (as in the online fmaily site) so if you go to check your matches right away you won't see any, but ideally you should get matches within 2-3 days, and with large trees 1000 persons, it may take 4-7 days.
I have spent the last month or so trying to clear the backlog of matches but as MyHeritage can not cope with the merging of trees without producing duplicates, so if a member uses a different program FTB they can't merge in another GEDCOM file without producing duplicates for every original person, so with no automated means of merge/delete more matches are produced.
The only other alternative is to add yet another tree to your site, and go through the matching process yet again, do this a couple of times and the other member also does this and you end up with an exponential growth in matches,
1 tree = 1 match for the same person
2 trees in each members site = 4 matches for the same two people
3 trees in each members site = 9 matches for the same two people
4 = 16, 5= 25 etc.
Now when checking "Smart Matches" take say take 90 seconds to verify each set, people soon get bored of checking the same thing over and over again, also with the older trees not being updated errors are perpetuated. I my-self have a tree of > 15,000 people that generates in 3,000 trees some 13,000 matches that will take me over 75 man/hours to clear, in the meantime my partner will add about 600 more people to our tree (held in a stand alone progam, MyHeritage is one of several sites that we update)
Some stats on this:
15 trees have matches of >100 people
I still have >1200 trees with one match to confirm
I have >975 trees with confirmed matches
I have rejected and ignored >900 trees
I would be nice if MyHeritage were to develope the software so that I can get out of this perpetual treadmill of validating "Smart Matches"(sic) some 50% of which I have to reject. This developement needs to merge a new GEDCOM file with all my updates with an older tree, without producing duplicates for every original person, and/or an automated means of merge/delete.
What is the experience of other user with large trees?
Most of my "smart matches" are not a match at all. I have some that are totally different surname, born 100 years apart, and from different places. The only one thing that might be same is the first name - something like JOHN! I reject them, but they are sitting there in my list of related trees. I cannot see a way to delete them. As it is I have only handful of other trees that are related to my own, and the rest is just clattering my site. And the same, totally unrelated, names are getting more and more matches from other trees. I am rapidly loosing interest, and I only have a very small tree; I can imagine what a nightmare it would be once you have so many people.
I also have some "record matches" which are wrong, but to reject those I would have to pay another $120 per year for something I do not want, as my family is not in the USA, and therefore US census and other records are not of interest to me.
When your get Smart Matches for your family tree, we show you ALL of your matches, the high quality matches and the lower quality ones.
The list is sorted by quality, so you’ll see the best matches first, but we also show you the other matches below, so that no information will be hidden, and all your research potential will be met. If you find that a match is wrong (sometimes siblings are matched with each other for example), just mark it as rejected.
Also, you can ignore family trees that are irrelevant, as I explained you in a different Forum post on which you also wrote.
Regarding the Record Matches, there isn't a way to delete them, and you can simply disregard them, if you don't have a Data Subscription and therefore cannot reject them. Nonetheless, in order to receive more accurate Record Matches, you can access the Record Matches page (hover over the "Family tree" tab and click on "Record Matches") and on the top left corner of the matches list click on "Filtering options".
On the window that opens, move the "Matches of the following confidence or higher" bar to the highst accuracy (more stars), so it will show you very few yet very accurate matches.
Record Matches and SuperSearch cover many countries and not only USA. On SuperSearch, where you can manually search for records, you can filter your results in many sorts. Click here to read more about how to use SupeSearch.
Niall, you asked, "What is the experience of other user with large trees?".
Well, I have two screens, which helps. I keep Family Tree Builder on the left screen, with the online SmartMatch page showing in the right. I match with the online screen (unless there are a lot of new family to merge; I do that in FTB SmartMatches using the Merge feature).
Online I choose the tree in the box on the top right, choose People, Last Name, and the page I have got up to. I don't forget that because I write the person's name and the page number in a book.
And then I just work through the whole damn tree alphabetically, looking for the bold type entries that show there are unresolved matches. Still tedious, there are still some weird matches, but it works.
This is a copy of what I wrote earlier with the reply that I privatley got from Laura - who them promptly deleted the orginal Her answers are in red
"11/12/2014 21:52 - Niall SANDERSON wrote:
Does anyone know what the effects are of different stages of rejection.
James Smith b1870 d1942 in your tree is "Smarth Matched" with Jos Smith b1850 d1942 in Joe Bloggs tree
A) you "ignore tree"
1) Does Joe Bloggs know that you have ignored his tree? No.
2) If Joe Bloggs creates another tree with Jos Smith b1850 d1942 are you:-
i) Presented with yet another chance to ignore this match? Yes.
ii) Your first choice of ignoring this match is upheld and you are not ask the question? No.
B) You "Reject" the match and then also "Ignore" the match
1) Does Joe Bloggs know that you have ignored his tree? No. But he will see if you rejected the Match.
2) Can Joe Bloggs send you a message contesting your rejection? He can send you a message about your rejection, as a paid member he would have the option to contact you.
3) If Joe Bloggs creates another tree with Jos Smith b1850 d1942 are you:-
i) Presented with yet another chance to ignore this match? Yes.
ii) Your first choice of ignoring this match is upheld and you are not ask the question? No. "
When the deletion was queried I got
If you would like to post the summary with the information of your questions and my answers, you are more than welcome to post a new post about it to inform the community.
Thank you for your understanding.
Recently I went to some trouble to mark the trees of one member 'ignore'. The reason was simple, she had nearly twenty trees, largely if not completely the same at least with regard to matches with me. Which was an absolute pain when matching.
I was sorry I had not left one so that I actually could compare people in our trees but have since seen matches with three or four more of her trees that I must have missed in the 'ignore' process!
And I have just rejected a couple of matches for the simple reason there was almost no detail in the other tree for me to compare and confirm, in one case I think the name only. They were most likely true matches but I certainly couldn't confirm them and if I did not reject them they would sit forever in SmartMatches, to be reviewed again next time through. We really do need a 'hold' or 'maybe' box to put these in.
Anyway I sent a message with the rejection to explain the situation; probably they will do a bit more research to see if my person might be the same one so I have helped them anyway.
FOR THOSE WHO ARE JUST 'GRABBING' NUMBERS AND HITTING GREEN ....... are you also anscestry patrons....
For those of us who are seriously nterested in family history, we do Do the research.
We do search and cite references.
We don't want to know just when x was born married or died.... we also want to know how they lived.
Yes we do sometimes list people we think may be related according to BDMs
On My site I specifically have stated that informaion IS NOT FULLY CLARIFIED. but cross checking census and other sources more often then not we find we've made an error and we delete that line (sometimes that can equate to anyhwere between 10 to 500 people) ... some of you however don't.
I am really annoyed at those who have just "seen' a smart match and grabbed it, copied .... including my spelling errors.... what you don't think we check???
My Heritage.... I am equally annoyed at you... my site is supposedly PRIVATE ... why and how is the information being posted, able to be seen by others who are NOT members of my site ...why is this occurring
I am VERY offended that some of you have grabbed at a 'smart match'. i HAVE RECEIVED SMART MATCHES, GENERATED BY MY HERITAGE and some of YOU who have grabbed a match.... FOR SOME UNKNOWN PERSON WHICH HAS PHOTOS OF MY GRANDFATHER. Oh Guess what .... NO.... my grandfather doesn't have 5 children, daughters etc etc... get your facts right.
for those of you who copy and paste.... again get your facts right and check the spelling... how you managed to get the details off my site is an issue that My Heritage will have to answer to
My Heritage You Need to fix this.... and Members ...smart matches are there for you to check... not to just assimilate into your sites
You asked, " FOR THOSE WHO ARE JUST 'GRABBING' NUMBERS AND HITTING GREEN ... are you also anscestry patrons....?"
Which has me mystified -- though I go to considerable trouble to check information -- but effectively the answer for me is "Yes"; my wife is a member and I have access to ancestry through that. It has been very useful; otherwise I would almost certainly have joined MH's record finding add-on and I will probably join it anyway...
But I know there are errors in my tree.
What is needed in SmartMatching is a third classification. We have Confirmed and we have Rejected but often we are uncertain, and what do we do then? Can't confirm unless the uncertainty level is very low; and if we don't Reject, the damn thing remains forever in the bulk Unconfirmed group. To be reviewed from scratch next time we do SmartMatches, where it really is partly reviewed already.
So we need a Maybe or Not Sure or Needs Further Research or whatever group, with notice to the other party and maybe a BIG GREEN QUESTION MARK watermark in the records.
Dear me, once again YOU have launched in a triade of invective and it proves you dont understand the issue!!!.
My point simply is-- if the user has a Need for help then perhaps that same help MIGHT be useful for others-- and hence a detail reply ( without disclosing private info) could and should be seen on the forum.
But, as you knwo, in the past, you all have the secrecy gene and are really put put when the idealogy of the compnay is exposed.
So once again I say to you-- tell the users and there should be far less need for these ( I have sent you a private email) replies that and THAT alone is what makes you look bad.
So refarin I might, but how about a bit of commonsense from Israel and lets not try and cover the facts with a flurry of blurb--
it is after all a USERS forum that you have many times iterated that it is aplace for usrs to excahnge dialogue without intervention of a moderator--- but OMG you flurry when it suits!!!
What is the point of "Smart" matches when you are offered them, validate that, yes they are near enough that you can confirm them, but if the other person does not have a "PremiumPlus" account they can NOT mutually confirm them or even reject them.
So I end up with "There are 8,230 Smart Matches™ you confirmed, that are pending confirmation by others"
So why are we offered them in the first place :(
Secondly why are we offered matches with managers whose tree was "Last updated: Jan 05 2011" or even earlier? I would like the option to ignore inactive trees.
Although basic members cannot confirm or reject Smart Matches, the Smart Matches can still be valuable for you, as they can provide you with important information that can help you with your research.
The same goes for trees updated years ago. I understand that sometimes it is not convenient for you to receive matches with trees that are not up to date. But imagine that this user - although he didn't update the tree for years - has some very valuable information that would make a big change in your research and you would not receive the match only because the tree is not up to date. You would miss out on important information.
Why are you so unhappy with trees that are not constantly updated?
In theory at least they may be the most accurate of all, with all past records complete and correct! And having completed the tree the compiler may have died so people born later will not, of course, be included.
When you get something like this; 13,314 matching family trees produced 47,527 Smart Matches.
I get a thousand a week....and they are worthless.
Ie matching a Record to an individual is more important than a stupid smart match on the person without records attached to it. So I have to keep an account on Ancestry.com because myheritage does not have the records that ancestry.com has.
So Smart matching to me is a total waste of time, because 99% of matches cann't be supported by records, so It's just a case of the blind following the blind.
ie...I don't know where it came from, but it matches that one, so it must be right....are....you...kidding.....me?
as 99.99% of any match can't be verfied by any records, unless you have an account on Ancestory.com
So why would I want to Verify a Match on myHeritage, I know is right form records on Ancestory.com to somebody who doesn't have a clue on myHeritage? Buy your own subscription from Ancestory.com.
When you get Smart Matches for your family tree, we show you ALL of your matches, the high quality matches and the lower quality ones.
The list is sorted by quality, so you’ll see the best matches first, but we also show you the other matches below, so that no information will be hidden, and all your research potential will be met.
If you find that a match is wrong (sometimes siblings are matched with each other for example), just mark it as rejected.
Marking the match as rejected will help you manage your matches, and will also help us understand that this should not be regarded as a Match in the future. For more details please read the following FAQ articles:
SuperSearch is MyHeritage’s search engine for historical records.
SuperSearch includes more than 5 billion genealogy records such as birth, marriage, death, burial, census, military, immigration, yearbooks and other types of records, plus scans of the original documents.
It also includes MyHeritage family trees, photos and members that are public – altogether more than one billion exclusive records from all over the world that in most cases can only be found on MyHeritage.
SuperSearch provides worldwide coverage with content relevant to all countries.
We are rapidly expanding the data sets and plan to grow SuperSearch over time to become the largest international collection of historical documents available online. Around 200 million additional records added on average every month!
The Record Matching technology automatically finds matching historical records for your family tree, from our growing collection of billions of records. This comes on top of SuperSearch, our search engine for historical records.
A Record Match is a document relevant to your family's history, such as a birth record of one of your ancestors, a tombstone photo of a relative in your family, or a newspaper article. Record Matches are found automatically and delivered directly to you.
Record Matching is the world's first and only technology to find family tree matches in newspaper articles, books and other free text documents, using semantic analysis.Based on the world’s largest historical newspaper collection dating back to the 18th century that we have under license, relevant newspaper articles found using this technology are incredibly valuable in shedding light on the lives, personalities and achievements of our ancestors. We call it "adding color to family history".
This is done in addition to matching structured data such as birth, marriage, death and census records. Of particular note is the collection of tombstone photos that we have under license. It's extremely useful to receive matching gravestone photos and burial information for the individuals in one’s family tree, automatically and effortlessly, and in one consolidated location, as provided by Record Matching.
I hope I could have given you an idea of both those services.
When the Smart Match source differs from my family tree data what happens to my tree if I accept the different data. It should collect that as an additional source showing the different data . Does it do that or does it overwrite the data I have already? Fof example I am getting several conflicts with US census data on DOB but since the census data is notoriously inaacurate I am OK with noting it but am not ready to accept it as the truth yet.