Niall, you asked, "What is the experience of other user with large trees?".
Well, I have two screens, which helps. I keep Family Tree Builder on the left screen, with the online SmartMatch page showing in the right. I match with the online screen (unless there are a lot of new family to merge; I do that in FTB SmartMatches using the Merge feature).
Online I choose the tree in the box on the top right, choose People, Last Name, and the page I have got up to. I don't forget that because I write the person's name and the page number in a book.
And then I just work through the whole damn tree alphabetically, looking for the bold type entries that show there are unresolved matches. Still tedious, there are still some weird matches, but it works.
This is a copy of what I wrote earlier with the reply that I privatley got from Laura - who them promptly deleted the orginal Her answers are in red
"11/12/2014 21:52 - Niall SANDERSON wrote:
Does anyone know what the effects are of different stages of rejection.
James Smith b1870 d1942 in your tree is "Smarth Matched" with Jos Smith b1850 d1942 in Joe Bloggs tree
A) you "ignore tree"
1) Does Joe Bloggs know that you have ignored his tree? No.
2) If Joe Bloggs creates another tree with Jos Smith b1850 d1942 are you:-
i) Presented with yet another chance to ignore this match? Yes.
ii) Your first choice of ignoring this match is upheld and you are not ask the question? No.
B) You "Reject" the match and then also "Ignore" the match
1) Does Joe Bloggs know that you have ignored his tree? No. But he will see if you rejected the Match.
2) Can Joe Bloggs send you a message contesting your rejection? He can send you a message about your rejection, as a paid member he would have the option to contact you.
3) If Joe Bloggs creates another tree with Jos Smith b1850 d1942 are you:-
i) Presented with yet another chance to ignore this match? Yes.
ii) Your first choice of ignoring this match is upheld and you are not ask the question? No. "
When the deletion was queried I got
If you would like to post the summary with the information of your questions and my answers, you are more than welcome to post a new post about it to inform the community.
Thank you for your understanding.
Recently I went to some trouble to mark the trees of one member 'ignore'. The reason was simple, she had nearly twenty trees, largely if not completely the same at least with regard to matches with me. Which was an absolute pain when matching.
I was sorry I had not left one so that I actually could compare people in our trees but have since seen matches with three or four more of her trees that I must have missed in the 'ignore' process!
And I have just rejected a couple of matches for the simple reason there was almost no detail in the other tree for me to compare and confirm, in one case I think the name only. They were most likely true matches but I certainly couldn't confirm them and if I did not reject them they would sit forever in SmartMatches, to be reviewed again next time through. We really do need a 'hold' or 'maybe' box to put these in.
Anyway I sent a message with the rejection to explain the situation; probably they will do a bit more research to see if my person might be the same one so I have helped them anyway.
FOR THOSE WHO ARE JUST 'GRABBING' NUMBERS AND HITTING GREEN ....... are you also anscestry patrons....
For those of us who are seriously nterested in family history, we do Do the research.
We do search and cite references.
We don't want to know just when x was born married or died.... we also want to know how they lived.
Yes we do sometimes list people we think may be related according to BDMs
On My site I specifically have stated that informaion IS NOT FULLY CLARIFIED. but cross checking census and other sources more often then not we find we've made an error and we delete that line (sometimes that can equate to anyhwere between 10 to 500 people) ... some of you however don't.
I am really annoyed at those who have just "seen' a smart match and grabbed it, copied .... including my spelling errors.... what you don't think we check???
My Heritage.... I am equally annoyed at you... my site is supposedly PRIVATE ... why and how is the information being posted, able to be seen by others who are NOT members of my site ...why is this occurring
I am VERY offended that some of you have grabbed at a 'smart match'. i HAVE RECEIVED SMART MATCHES, GENERATED BY MY HERITAGE and some of YOU who have grabbed a match.... FOR SOME UNKNOWN PERSON WHICH HAS PHOTOS OF MY GRANDFATHER. Oh Guess what .... NO.... my grandfather doesn't have 5 children, daughters etc etc... get your facts right.
for those of you who copy and paste.... again get your facts right and check the spelling... how you managed to get the details off my site is an issue that My Heritage will have to answer to
My Heritage You Need to fix this.... and Members ...smart matches are there for you to check... not to just assimilate into your sites
You asked, " FOR THOSE WHO ARE JUST 'GRABBING' NUMBERS AND HITTING GREEN ... are you also anscestry patrons....?"
Which has me mystified -- though I go to considerable trouble to check information -- but effectively the answer for me is "Yes"; my wife is a member and I have access to ancestry through that. It has been very useful; otherwise I would almost certainly have joined MH's record finding add-on and I will probably join it anyway...
But I know there are errors in my tree.
What is needed in SmartMatching is a third classification. We have Confirmed and we have Rejected but often we are uncertain, and what do we do then? Can't confirm unless the uncertainty level is very low; and if we don't Reject, the damn thing remains forever in the bulk Unconfirmed group. To be reviewed from scratch next time we do SmartMatches, where it really is partly reviewed already.
So we need a Maybe or Not Sure or Needs Further Research or whatever group, with notice to the other party and maybe a BIG GREEN QUESTION MARK watermark in the records.
What is the point of "Smart" matches when you are offered them, validate that, yes they are near enough that you can confirm them, but if the other person does not have a "PremiumPlus" account they can NOT mutually confirm them or even reject them.
So I end up with "There are 8,230 Smart Matches™ you confirmed, that are pending confirmation by others"
So why are we offered them in the first place :(
Secondly why are we offered matches with managers whose tree was "Last updated: Jan 05 2011" or even earlier? I would like the option to ignore inactive trees.
Although basic members cannot confirm or reject Smart Matches, the Smart Matches can still be valuable for you, as they can provide you with important information that can help you with your research.
The same goes for trees updated years ago. I understand that sometimes it is not convenient for you to receive matches with trees that are not up to date. But imagine that this user - although he didn't update the tree for years - has some very valuable information that would make a big change in your research and you would not receive the match only because the tree is not up to date. You would miss out on important information.
Why are you so unhappy with trees that are not constantly updated?
In theory at least they may be the most accurate of all, with all past records complete and correct! And having completed the tree the compiler may have died so people born later will not, of course, be included.
Not the OP, but a tree that hasn't been updated in a long time is more likely to indicate a tree that somebody created during a two week trial and no longer monitors. No sense wasting time on ones where the owner isn't around, whether dead or just dropped the project after a couple of weeks. Although it's amazing how far back you can get your research in two weeks - friend of mine got all the way back to Julius Ceaser on her free trial.
When you get something like this; 13,314 matching family trees produced 47,527 Smart Matches.
I get a thousand a week....and they are worthless.
Ie matching a Record to an individual is more important than a stupid smart match on the person without records attached to it. So I have to keep an account on Ancestry.com because myheritage does not have the records that ancestry.com has.
So Smart matching to me is a total waste of time, because 99% of matches cann't be supported by records, so It's just a case of the blind following the blind.
ie...I don't know where it came from, but it matches that one, so it must be right....are....you...kidding.....me?
as 99.99% of any match can't be verfied by any records, unless you have an account on Ancestory.com
So why would I want to Verify a Match on myHeritage, I know is right form records on Ancestory.com to somebody who doesn't have a clue on myHeritage? Buy your own subscription from Ancestory.com.
When you get Smart Matches for your family tree, we show you ALL of your matches, the high quality matches and the lower quality ones.
The list is sorted by quality, so you’ll see the best matches first, but we also show you the other matches below, so that no information will be hidden, and all your research potential will be met.
If you find that a match is wrong (sometimes siblings are matched with each other for example), just mark it as rejected.
Marking the match as rejected will help you manage your matches, and will also help us understand that this should not be regarded as a Match in the future. For more details please read the following FAQ articles:
SuperSearch is MyHeritage’s search engine for historical records.
SuperSearch includes more than 5 billion genealogy records such as birth, marriage, death, burial, census, military, immigration, yearbooks and other types of records, plus scans of the original documents.
It also includes MyHeritage family trees, photos and members that are public – altogether more than one billion exclusive records from all over the world that in most cases can only be found on MyHeritage.
SuperSearch provides worldwide coverage with content relevant to all countries.
We are rapidly expanding the data sets and plan to grow SuperSearch over time to become the largest international collection of historical documents available online. Around 200 million additional records added on average every month!
The Record Matching technology automatically finds matching historical records for your family tree, from our growing collection of billions of records. This comes on top of SuperSearch, our search engine for historical records.
A Record Match is a document relevant to your family's history, such as a birth record of one of your ancestors, a tombstone photo of a relative in your family, or a newspaper article. Record Matches are found automatically and delivered directly to you.
Record Matching is the world's first and only technology to find family tree matches in newspaper articles, books and other free text documents, using semantic analysis.Based on the world’s largest historical newspaper collection dating back to the 18th century that we have under license, relevant newspaper articles found using this technology are incredibly valuable in shedding light on the lives, personalities and achievements of our ancestors. We call it "adding color to family history".
This is done in addition to matching structured data such as birth, marriage, death and census records. Of particular note is the collection of tombstone photos that we have under license. It's extremely useful to receive matching gravestone photos and burial information for the individuals in one’s family tree, automatically and effortlessly, and in one consolidated location, as provided by Record Matching.
I hope I could have given you an idea of both those services.
When the Smart Match source differs from my family tree data what happens to my tree if I accept the different data. It should collect that as an additional source showing the different data . Does it do that or does it overwrite the data I have already? Fof example I am getting several conflicts with US census data on DOB but since the census data is notoriously inaacurate I am OK with noting it but am not ready to accept it as the truth yet.