Var finns det "smarta" i dessa så kallade matchningar?
När det i ett matchat par finns följande:
Förnamn: Felmatchning Johan - Anna
Födelsedatum: Felmatchning 1913 - 1817
Dödsdatum: Felmatchning 1995 - 1897
Faderns förnamn: Felmatchning Olof - Per
Moderns förnamn: Felmatchning
Make/makar: ingen i ena trädet
Med andra ord inte en siffra/bokstav rätt.
Det känns verkligen uppmuntrande när det dyker upp meddelanden om 100-400 nya "smartmatches".
Blir inte bättre när man dessutom upptäcker att det finns medlemmar som GODKÄNT dessa.
Blir också förvånad när jag ser att min bror har två fruar i vissa träd (undrar om han har någon aning om det?).
Stackars den som ska släktforska i framtiden då släktträd tydligen kopieras helt utan kontroll via "myheritage".
Det blir nog bara det förbetalda året för min del.
Jag har tittat på dessa matcher och vi är medvetna om det faktum att systemet inte är felfri.
Som ett resultat av dessa korrupta pooler (som vi kallar dem) en ny mekanism för beräkning Smart matcher redan i vår utvecklare händer och på färdplanen som en del av Smart Match förbättringar.
Denna nya mekanism kommer att minska antalet falska positiva träffar dramatiskt.
Det är mycket mer robust än vårt nuvarande system. Jag är inte att göra några löften om tidsramar
för frisläppande av detta nya system - det finns fortfarande mycket att förstå om omfattningen av
projektet innan vi kan definiera och lovar en tid - men jag trodde att du skulle vara
intresserad av att veta att det är på gång.
Tack för uppdateringen,
Esther / MyHeritage Team
I have looked at these matches and we are aware of the fact that the system is not flawless.
As a result of these corrupted pools (as we call them) a new mechanism for calculating Smart Matches is already in our developer's hands and on the road map as part of the Smart Match improvements.
This new mechanism will reduce the number of false positive matches dramatically.
It's much more robust than our current system. I'm not making any promises about time frames
for release of this new system - there is still a lot to understand about the scope of
the project before we can define and promise a time - but I thought you would be
interested to know it's in the works.
They can see your tree as long as it isn't private. If it is private, they will see the match and all the surrounding people will be marked "private". If your tree is not private they wll see the names of all the people surrounding the match as long as they are not still alive. I tried your link and it's not private so if someone has a match then they can view your tree and confirm a match if they are a premium member.
It seems that to get matches between trees, they must reside in separate personal accounts. Is it possible to activate smart matching within your own site? It would be really useful not having to create a new account for each tree.
I attempted to go through MyHeritage's recommended process below
How do I ignore all online Smart Matches™ for a tree that I am being matched with ?
I began setting 'Ignore tree' for all the duplicated trees on sites identifying SmartMatches with my tree CATHERY - Master. After about 45 minutes I stopped as it was taking me far too long and I was only able to make a small impact on the many duplicated records in my pending confirmation list. This suggested method must be done for each individual tree you want to ignore and it takes about 10-15 seconds per duplicated tree to complete the process.
If MyHeritage wants to provide a viable 'Ignore tree' process for its users (aka customers), then I suggest there needs to be a user screen developed to show a tabulated list of sites with multiple trees. This needs to be sorted in Site Manager order with a checkbox against each tree for that site, so that we can quickly select those trees via checkbox that we wish to ignore, along with a 'Confirm Selection' button at the bottom.
Your suggested process to ignore duplicate trees may seem to be a reasonable workaround, however I'd rather that MyHeritage actually fix the root cause by resolving the non-management of multiple user trees and the resultant duplication of records.
I cannot see how the current implementation of SmartMatches in MyHeritage can work to anyone's satisfaction and it's a pity because it is a very innovative research tool. I have no doubt that this issue is harming your brand and turning people away at membership renewal time.
With due respect, it makes me wonder if anyone at MyHeritage actually spends any real time using SmartMatches in performing their own family research, as they can surely only come to one conclusion and that is that the lack of managing and reducing duplicated records, almost entirely negates the usefulness of SmartMatches.
I used to 'resolve' all my smart matches until I noticed that some people have several versions of their trees and each one generates a separate smart match.
Maybe there can be some kind of reminder to people with multiple versions of trees to delete the superceded ones after a set time frame. It is very annoying to get so many duplicated smart matches. So much so that it takes ages to check them.
I have also decided to ignore all trees with over 10,000 (or maybe even 5,000) names.
I am interested in your logic to not deal with trees of over 5000 or 10000. Does the size of the tree dictate credibility?
I have been working on my tree for 35years and it grew past 5000 many years ago, what sholdone do at that pont- Stop?
I have less respect for the omes who have 145 or so in therir tree becuse that indicates they havent got dedication or the ability or the interest, but to have more than 10000 indicates that some real effort has been put in.
The only reason I don't try to keep up with Smart matches for larger trees is because My Heritage can't maintain the family relationship on the personal profile page if my tree has more than 5,000 names on it.
It is just a choice I have made so that I can keep track of how the names on my tree are connected.
I do this because in my own tree, once I reached 5,000 names, myheritage no longer showed the relationships on the profiles, and this is one of my most important 'views'. So I deleted a lot of Ancestor siblings just to reduce my own tree to under 5,000. Before that, I also took great pride in filling in as many names as I could.
I mean no disrespect at all to people who have worked hard to create their own trees, nor do I question their credibility.
This is a problem I will face in the future, as my tree is already nearing 4,000 records. And family relationships are absolutely essential to me. I have (effectively) one tree, based on Family Tree Builder.
I don't want to delete anybody from my family tree, BUT; can I have two family trees in my Family Tree Builder.
I would like to save the entire tree in a separate file/folder, whatever is best and whatever you call it, as a record/archive; just for me to keep and add to from time to time (and is there an easy way to do that?), not to publish to the web or give or receive SmartMatches.
Do you already have such an 'archive' feature, how does it work, and if not can you get one in Family Tree Builder?? PLEASE?
And having saved the complete tree in that way, I can delete a lot of the more remote relations from the main, working, published-to-the-web tree. Thus keeping it below the magical 5,000, reducing SmartMatches which are great but quite impossible to keep up with, and keeping all the family relationships in my tree. And avoiding the situation unfortunately applying with several trees regularly matched with mine, where the site owner has as many as ten trees that I have to check matches for!
I have 4 family trees on my site. One from myself following my father's side; one following my mother's side; one following my wife's fathers side; and one following my wife's mother's side. I have thought about a few more breaks where the tree get overly involved but haven't got there yet.
Separating family trees like that would work fine for my wife's mother's family, and for her father's family; they are quite separate from each other and from my family. However she is doing her own tree in ancestry. My own family tree has many marriages between members of my mother's family and of my father's family, unrelated to each other before marriage, and cousin marriages ... I can't have separate trees in my family because that will not show these relationships. Which is why I want to archive the complete tree and additions to it for a full record, and keep an active FTB tree which is smaller, does not include the more remote family members, and so attracts far fewer SmartMatches which now are quite impossible to keep up with.
I ask again; who can tell me how to build this archive? Does the system provide for it? If not, why not? Geoff
How interesting that we discover another shortcoming of myheritage. I did not know that over 5000 the sytem fails. I wonder if many others know this or WILL FIND OUT when it happens to them. I hope this forum is monitored by myheritage , it might and I say might, lead to another recomendation to the IT department.
We use a very complex and efficient algorithm to calculate the relationships in the tree, and this algorithm takes time to run and may slow down the display of the tree if it is too heavy and more complex. We put the limit at 5000 people per tree, as this is the size that can be handled without causing inconvenience for the person viewing and possibly editing the tree.