In reply to Dean- I suggest that if more or ALL users were fully informed that the process of publishing and republishing is the cause of the delay in smart matching then more users would be more patient and less likley to post forum notices such as the one that generated this exchange.
Myheritage might do a whole lot better if it wre just a little more honest and forthcoming in the "compex" issues areound smat matches and other aspects of the software.
I stand by my first statement that - strange things happen with smart matches! even if you think there is a logical process.
The Smart Match hits I'm getting now don't have a means of copying data that my tree is missing. What ever happened to that feature, and why should I go to all the trouble of confirming matches when I cannot profit from the time and effort?
The Smart Matches come with whatever subscription you have; not sure about the free limited subscription.
But if you've got a crown you have smart matches.
I have recently subscribed to the My Heritage research add-on (variously named and described) and that is around $10 a month. Gives you a lot of extra information from other programs, notably Geni; also lots of newspaper references and birth certificates and gravesites and such and is worth the extra.
Without checking figures it is probably comparable or nearly in costs and benefits to ancestry (which my wife has and which I have used a lot).
I just received a couple of smart matches that had me intrigued. One is from my husband's side of the family, one is from my own. The problem is that the tree they both are on is incredibly huge, and I can't just "go looking" to see if I find how they are connected. Is there a way to mark these two people to find the relationship (the line) between them?
It might be simpler if you send message to the site manager and ask them to do the calculation between the the two people concerned, giving them all the information that you have on them, so as they can confirm the they are the same people that are in your tree.
This is a matter of your own judgement. If after checking all the information of that matched person, you believe it is irrelevant for you, you can simply reject it.
However, if for instance you find that even a date being incorrect, other informations is relevant such as places of birth and death, the siblings, etc. You can confirm it.
The act of confirming a match will not change the data you have in your own family tree. Only if you actively copy the information, it will change in your tree. So you don't have to worry much about confirming a match that is not 100% accurate to what you think is correct. It can still be valuable for you to have a contact with that other tree to which yours was matched, because you might find in that tree valuable information for your research.
I decided to lash out and pay for the extra smart matching.It is so frustrating as when I add family eg brother,sister ,etc the date changes on the day for the births,marriages and deaths. Three or four times 14 family. Most annoying. Is there somewhere where I can turn this?
I had thought this would be a great way to spend the holiday season but it is so frusting so I have decided to give it a few days rest and will try again or I will probably throw my puter out the door
I have the same problem. It occurs when reviewing record matches and someone that has been matched is not in your tree. You are given the option to add sister or add brother, or whatever realtive is missing by clicking the box on teh right side of the browser widow. When it adds the person to the right side of the screen, it increments every date added by one day. If the date frm the matched person on the left is Oct 15, 1776, then the date added to the right side of the browser is Oct 16, 1776. This occurs with every date: birth, baptisim, marriage, death, etc. for every person you add in this manner it adds one day to every date. It's very annoying.
I have over 200 names 'pending confirmation' but when I go to do a match there is nothing there - just a blank.
It says "Smart Matches™ are currently being processed. Come back to this page soon to check for updates."
I left the computer on all night to see if it would process but no still over 200 to be processed.
I recently edited renamed and deleted trees so as to cut down on duplicate names, could the original names still be wanting to be matched even though names have been deleted?
This is very annoying as I like to keep my smart matches up to date. I now dont know if there are smart matches to be checked. and if there are any, where they are. There are so many showing 'NEW' that I have already gone into, but nothing to match. Please help.
The smart matches are generated when you make a change in your family tree and publish them to your website. The data will then be compared with over 25 million other family trees at MyHeritage . Due to the fact that this takes some time it will take 2-3 of days to collection of the data. Large family tree projects may take a week.
The smart matching technology is very dynamic. It happens that in this "intermediate period" webmasters make changes in their family trees and
remove individual cards and even entire trees. The result is that you have received a message that you have a smart match, but that the data has been removed. The result is an empty smart match.
Also you may wish to know that within the Family tree Builder Software the SmartMatch alorithms work differently to the online fmaily site and the matches are presented later than that on the online fmaily site. The reason is due to a lag in processing Smart Matches.
When you type the information into your tree (In Family tree Builder) we check to see if there are matches "ad-hoc" or "on the fly".
If there is a match, the green icon appears to indicate we've found a preliminary match. The actual matches usually take a few days to be processed (as in the online fmaily site) so if you go to check your matches right away you won't see any, but ideally you should get matches within 2-3 days, and with large trees 1000 persons, it may take 4-7 days.
I have spent the last month or so trying to clear the backlog of matches but as MyHeritage can not cope with the merging of trees without producing duplicates, so if a member uses a different program FTB they can't merge in another GEDCOM file without producing duplicates for every original person, so with no automated means of merge/delete more matches are produced.
The only other alternative is to add yet another tree to your site, and go through the matching process yet again, do this a couple of times and the other member also does this and you end up with an exponential growth in matches,
1 tree = 1 match for the same person
2 trees in each members site = 4 matches for the same two people
3 trees in each members site = 9 matches for the same two people
4 = 16, 5= 25 etc.
Now when checking "Smart Matches" take say take 90 seconds to verify each set, people soon get bored of checking the same thing over and over again, also with the older trees not being updated errors are perpetuated. I my-self have a tree of > 15,000 people that generates in 3,000 trees some 13,000 matches that will take me over 75 man/hours to clear, in the meantime my partner will add about 600 more people to our tree (held in a stand alone progam, MyHeritage is one of several sites that we update)
Some stats on this:
15 trees have matches of >100 people
I still have >1200 trees with one match to confirm
I have >975 trees with confirmed matches
I have rejected and ignored >900 trees
I would be nice if MyHeritage were to develope the software so that I can get out of this perpetual treadmill of validating "Smart Matches"(sic) some 50% of which I have to reject. This developement needs to merge a new GEDCOM file with all my updates with an older tree, without producing duplicates for every original person, and/or an automated means of merge/delete.
What is the experience of other user with large trees?
I have a similar experience. I use another program as 'original source' and uploads its database (on GEDCOM file format) to My Heritage to let relatives see the family tree. I maintain my own database since I do not entirely trust 'cloud computing' or know for how long I will continue being a My Heritage subscriber.
I have spent several evenings during the last weeks to check Smart Matches and was able to reduce them to a more manageable set. In connection with that I decided to upload my database. I did this by deleting the existing database at My Heritage and then upload a new one, keeping the same name on the database file. To my surprise, all previously verified Smart Matches popped up again.
In general, I think the Smart Matches feature is useful. Thanks to it a second cousin in another country contacted me and we were able to share information. I have also noticed that there are other relatives that have their own family trees.
However, the algorithm to detect Smart Matches seems poor. It should be able to remember if person A in database B already has been matched with person A in database C, without generating an alert.
I don't intend to repeat the checking procedure, it's too much work spent in vain.
I suspect that you and your father share the same name, and that you have not been too precise in the entry of the date of your birth and his (just the year?) and if there is no difference in the place of your birth and your fathers the matching algorithm thinks that you both the same person :(
This is a tip to all users of MyHeritage / Smart Matching; try to be precise as possible in the entry of "Facts" so as to differentiate your ancestor from everyone else, so if a match is found it should be greater than 65% unique.
Most of my "smart matches" are not a match at all. I have some that are totally different surname, born 100 years apart, and from different places. The only one thing that might be same is the first name - something like JOHN! I reject them, but they are sitting there in my list of related trees. I cannot see a way to delete them. As it is I have only handful of other trees that are related to my own, and the rest is just clattering my site. And the same, totally unrelated, names are getting more and more matches from other trees. I am rapidly loosing interest, and I only have a very small tree; I can imagine what a nightmare it would be once you have so many people.
I also have some "record matches" which are wrong, but to reject those I would have to pay another $120 per year for something I do not want, as my family is not in the USA, and therefore US census and other records are not of interest to me.
When your get Smart Matches for your family tree, we show you ALL of your matches, the high quality matches and the lower quality ones.
The list is sorted by quality, so you’ll see the best matches first, but we also show you the other matches below, so that no information will be hidden, and all your research potential will be met. If you find that a match is wrong (sometimes siblings are matched with each other for example), just mark it as rejected.
Also, you can ignore family trees that are irrelevant, as I explained you in a different Forum post on which you also wrote.
Regarding the Record Matches, there isn't a way to delete them, and you can simply disregard them, if you don't have a Data Subscription and therefore cannot reject them. Nonetheless, in order to receive more accurate Record Matches, you can access the Record Matches page (hover over the "Family tree" tab and click on "Record Matches") and on the top left corner of the matches list click on "Filtering options".
On the window that opens, move the "Matches of the following confidence or higher" bar to the highst accuracy (more stars), so it will show you very few yet very accurate matches.
Record Matches and SuperSearch cover many countries and not only USA. On SuperSearch, where you can manually search for records, you can filter your results in many sorts. Click here to read more about how to use SupeSearch.