I use the Mac version of Family Tree Builder and this morning I ran the "Family Tree Book" within the software on my Mac. The result was very surprising, the dates and places were way out - for example my youngest grandchild listed;
(Peter's grandson) was born on 24 September 1810 to Jason Norman Lombard26 and Natalie
Joy Lombard [Magarry]27, as shown in family tree 1. Cameron died on 2 June 1991, aged 180. Cameron is no
I then ran the same report online with great results, a cursory check indicates that it is acurate and as an example the same grandchild's listing;
(Peter's grandson) was born on 23 July 2009, in Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia, to Jason Norman Lombard26 and Natalie Joy Lombard [Magarry]27, as shown in family tree 1.
It seems to me that there is a serious issue with the downloadable software and users should run reports online until the issue is addressed. My question now is who do I report this bug to?
Thank you and Thank you again for putting back the Relationship Report feature in your Family Tree applications. You DID listen to all the comments and complaints about the feature's removal and you put it back.
I would not have known about the feature's return had I not just stumbled upon it when I opened up the "Family Tree" main tab at the top of the main page today. The Relationship Report used to be tucked in with the Books, Charts, and Reports sub title, but now it is listed all by itself as one of the sub titles under the main Family Tree tab. I bet that there are many others who are also unaware of this feature's return. I'm sure you announced it somewhere, but maybe you could announce its return again. It's a GREAT feature, and your chart graphics for it are wonderful. Thanks again for bringing it back.
Yes, I noticed that, too. But there was no announcement and it very is rudimentary. It only defines 'Close' relationships, which apparently means 2nd cousins and direct ancestors to about 1250. A good start, but hardly satisfactory. The function should be exactly the same as in Family Tree Builder, which calculates at least to 6th cousin across at whatever generations removed and as many ancestors back as you have on your tree no matter how many generations ago.
I don't understand why the on-line relationship calculator cannot be exactly the same as on FTB?
Oh dear. I was only looking for verification of 2nd cousins when I tested it out again yesterday. That is disappointing to learn it has not returned to its "full strength". Again, a thank you to the tech staff for bringing the feature back, but there really shouldn't be any reason why it can't function as fully as it used to, and as fully as the Tree Builder program. Thanks for the heads up Ingrid.
Hi Jonathon, and Hi again Ingrid. I think we need to "hold the phone" here. I played around with the "Relationship Report" app again today, and it's working fine for me. It's taking relationships out to 20-30 steps. Here's an example. One of my site members just read an article I posted about a distant relative of mine. She commented on the article that she found the history interesting, even though she is not related to the subject at all. Well I checked with the relationship report, and indeed she is connected to the subject of the article by 22 steps. The app calculated that the person in the article is her "1st cousin 4 times removed's husband's step father's 4th cousin 2 times removed." I played around with the app putting in names I knew were barely connected; having to go through several different family marriages and quite a few generations. The calculation never came up with a "not related", or a "too distant to calculate" message.
Now, I do have only 2,000 folks in my tree, and my 30 plus site members are all in the tree somehow, even if by marriage, or by a very distant colonial ancestoral connection. I have a couple of 7th and 8th cousins as well as one or two "cousins-in-law" as site members. So if you have a huge family tree, it may stop the calculation after a while, but I think it should take it out 30 maybe 40 steps. Anyway, it suits my needs, and I love using it. You're right Jonathon. Fancy the tech dept actually listening. Now there's a concept. Keep it up Heritage....I like the direction.
On the bottom of the Charts page, you have the option to choose the person who's going to be the subject of the chart and also the amount of generations to show. (Please, see the below attached image).
I agree with all of those who have posted about this topic. In my opinion, this is a big mistake on your part to remove this feature. It is a valuable tool for those of us who like to do a deeper research into our family tree. It helps us in our reports to members of our family as well as helping our fellow site members understand their connection to each other. I can't understand how a genealogy service such as yours would not deem this feature a vital part of its website. I hope you truly do take a second look at your decision to remove it, and return it to your "Reports" options.
Thank you for highlighing this. I also wrote to the office about this. When you have a complex family tree members find this tool really helpful, I know some of my family members have missed it. I do hope you reconsider and restore it.
Does anyone know if it's possible to create a family book which I have successfully run on the site but to be able to split it into two books, one for my grandfather's side the other from my grandmother's side?
There is not a way to split the Book itself. The Books is always created for the whole family tree, taking one person as the 'starting point' or 'subject' of the book.
Nonetheless, if you work with our software Family Tree Builder (click here to download free), you can export specific branches of the tree and create a new tree only for that branch. And from that new tree-branch you can run the Book Report/Family Book.
Please, click on the links below that will help you with that:
Tried to access the Relationship Calculator under the 'Family Tree' tab, but couldn't find the 'Reports' link. Has this calculator been moved or is it no longer available. I've considered this feature very useful and would hate to think it's no longer available.
It seems utterly meaningless to remove the most useful functionality of the site. What use is a large family tree if one cannot se how people are related? I could as well have made it on paper and taken notes, but now I have thousands of names and no adequate means of calculating their relationship to me or between them. Why can't we rather loose the meaningless birthday reminder function? I do not intend to congratulate thousands of people, who are for the most part dead, and most part of the living I do not really know at all!
I also found this relationship calculator very useful for large trees. Please put it back! It would also be useful if MyHeritage would let us know of new functionalities, as well as, fixes and removals.
I understand that you may be a little frustrated at the disappearance of the Reports from within the online family site and I would like to explain why this has happened.
As part of our user experience improvement, we have recently run statistics on most of our 'in site' functions that are used by our members.
It appeared that this particular function was one of the least used by our members and therefore it was decided to remove this in order to improve the online site functionality. Also, there were sometimes problems with the Reports section that would also aggravate a user when they tired to use this function.
We are however compiling a list of users that report to us that they would like this function to return, upon which we will reassess our action and possibly bring this back, either with a new design or as it was.
Please note that you have been added to the list of users that have reported an avid interest in its return.
I trust that this work around for now provides you with a certain level of comfort and that you are happy with our overall willingness to make our site a much more improved experience for our users.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again should you require any further assistance and we will be only too happy to help.
While reviewing the relationship calculation posts to see if there were any new developments, I noticed that a "list"was being compiled of people who cared enough to protest its discontinuance. List? Never mind a list! This should be a basic, indispensable, invaluable feature of a family tree! If and when it is restored for general use, it should be announced with a specific date and well advertised in several articles with clear directions how to use it!
Perhaps the reason that self-initiated on-line use was recorded as not frequent enough is that descent used to be shown whenever a profile was looked at. Other relationships had to be specifically asked for, but directions to do so could have been included in a sentence directly under this descent calculation.