I just signed up for MyHeritage and I am investigating if this is the place where I want to safehouse and manage all my family records.
One of the most important things I look at is migration of data (import/export). For records like this where data intends to live basically forever, the product lifecycle becomes vital. Many things can happen. MyHeritage might go out of business (in X amount of years), I might want to host the data myself, I might want to choose another provider for whatever reason, etc etc. I would never put myself into a position where my family's data is kept hostage and all the invested time is locked in.
So I am very happy to see that you can easily export a family tree into the GEDCOM format and that you also can download an entire photo album (you even give us ZIP compression that takes CPU power). That's great!
However, I am looking for a service where my family members can contribute with precious meta data. A photo is not much without the context, and when my older family members have passed, I can't go back and ask them about a context for a photo again if that data would be lost or held hostage. But this kind of meta data doesn't seem to be possible to export? If so, where? I am talking about the tags, keywords and notes for photos. If there would be some way to export that as well that would be AWESOME!
"We reserve the right, in our sole discretion, to reject, refuse to post or remove any content posted by you and/or any family site, or to restrict, suspend, or terminate your access to all or any part of the Website and/or Service at any time, for any or no reason, with or without prior notice, and without any liability, financial or otherwise. We also reserve the right, in our sole discretion, to reject, refuse to post or remove any family site at any time, for any or no reason, with or without prior notice, and without any liability, financial or otherwise, if we deem that the family site is in breach of this Agreement in any way."
Ok, I know you wouldn't just delete stuff without cause, but it could happen. So I prefer to take a personal backup once in a while.
I also thought about scanning my pages automatically once in a while to back it up, but then we have this:
"...systematically download content and data from or through the Website to make or populate another database for any purpose. Scraping, crawling and/or harvesting of any data and any pages from the Website without our explicit prior written consent is strictly prohibited."
Which means that I wouldn't be able to back it up that way either.
Veeery long monologue here, but the bottom line question is: How can I back up the meta data of photos?
Thank you for using our forum and thank you for your suggestions.
In your web tree can your comments be saved, if you choose to export your tree (Gedcom). It is done in the following way, if you click on one of the profiles in your web tree, then click on “edit profile”, and then “personal info”. The information you put there will be saved in a Gedcom file as notes.
Regarding photos and comments made on photography’s; these comments will not be saved when making exporting your tree. Though what you are suggesting is a very good idea.
Please remove this reminder option. It really is annoying. At this moment I really have no time to work on my tree. And I hate to receive reminders to evaluate their smart matches truely EVERY day.
I tried the ignore this family option, but that doesn't stop the annoying mails. I am about to quit using MyHeritage when this spam continues any longer without any option to blacklist annoying people!
I try to wait to send reminders to give people at least a few months to respond, but after that I feel they should take a look and send a reminder. A few months after that I might actually send an email, although While I have a lot of matches unconfirmed, and even more before I reset my matches(turning matches off and then restarting resets them), I have only sent one email. They never responded either even though they were still updating their tree every day. I have tried to ignore trees from any user that never confirmed before. Although all of this depends a bit on how often they update their tree. It's one thing if they haven't updated their tree in 6 months, I can assume that they aren't being active in the system at all, probably not even logging in, but if they are updating every day and still haven't checked the match in 6 months, I would defintely be willing to contact them. There needs to be a consistant way of making smart matches viable. Such that if a person turns smart matching off for themselves, we don't get a match for them either.
I do have to disagree and say that the reminder option is important to have. Maybe there could be a limit such as you can't remind someone until a certain amount of time has passed. Maybe you have to have confirmed a match 2-3 months before you can remind them to do the same.
People start using it within three days after confirming.
And atm, I am one of those users that hasn't updated his tree in several months. For me it really is a pain in the ... right now, and simply because of two users. One of them sends reminders even twice a day in the weekend. And there simply is NO way to stop that other then closing your tree completely, which excludes myself from finding leads for research.
I think they simply are users living from the research of others and are looking for easy ways to extend theirs without much effort of themselves.
Well, if it is THAT important to ber able to send reminders that even spamming (it's nothing less) is allowed, I am simply out of here. That is NO way of treating people. If I have to shut myself out completely, a premium MyHeritage account has no added value left.
I was one of those people willing to confirm matches whenever I had time. But I also know people who simply hate people "stealing" their whole tree through smart matches.
Well, I have around 5,500 matches not replied to, according to the SmartMatch statistics.
And I am once more working my way through the SmartMatches, by 'people', alphabetically. That way I see matches already confirmed and new ones.
But I am a bit puzzled by your comments:
'I think they simply are users living from the research of others and are looking for easy ways to extend theirs without much effort of themselves.', and
'But I also know people who simply hate people "stealing" their whole tree through smart matches. '
I have quite happily built my tree using Smart Matches, and a majority of them come from relations who know that. But 'an easy way without much effort" ?? Hardly. It has taken me half a year, pretty much full time, so far. And I don't just put the names in my tree, I do it line by line, check as carefully as possible for errors and discrepancies, and advise the owner of the other tree whenever I find them. And if anyone doesn't want me to use material from their tree they can set the privacy levels to a suitable level.
But far from this I have become a member of quite a few sites of people who I share information with, and they have joined my tree, too. I steal from them and they steal from me and we are all happy. Isn't that the rationale behind the whole system? Sharing information? At first I was taking information, but as my tree gets bigger I am able to give more information to others. In a lot of cases with errors removed and extra information from other matches.
I steal from them and they steal from me and we are all happy. Isn't that the rationale behind the whole system?
That's about the size of it. The way I look at it is that this is a fun hobby that I do for my own reasons. My information is as accurate as I can make it, though I know there are many errors. If I am going to put my tree on a site like this, why not let other people have it? Let them take what they can get and get on with their lives. Not even much point in having private trees either. Non-members can't see living people anyway. What's the big deal about them seeing the rest of the tree?
Eric--I totally agree with you. I have gained enormously more than I could possibly lose by being generous with my information and try to acknowledge and thank my sources whenever possible. And I, too, am very careful about what I use and how I use it--I would NOT think, for instance, of indiscriminately 'stealing' and incorporating whole trees or even parts of trees! I tried it once with one branch and cursed and tore my hair out for a month undoing the damage! And I, too, am puzzled by complaints such as the ones we are discussing. This kind of 'work' is a labor of love. If it is not fun for you, why do it at all? Besides, you can always hit the 'ignore this tree' button if the information is not useful or junk, or marked 'private' and there is no telling which.
I have no problem with people "stealing" my findings. The only issue about it, is when I know that the "stolen" information I have is unchecked and they confirm the smart match with my tree right of without them checking it.
By the way, I have 20000 matches unconfirmed by others and I have about 60 confirmed matches myself to confirm/reject.
När jag sparar mitt färdiga träd som JPG fil försvinner födelseåret på 5 personer, alltid samma 5 och bara när jag sparar som JPG, inte när jag sparar som PDF. Det är alltså inte hela födelsedatumet utan endast årtalet som försvinner, månad och datum står kvar. Vad beror detta på och hur fixar jag så det inte händer?
Tack för att du använder dig av vårt forum. Jag kan inte på rak arm säga vad detta beror på, men jag rekommenderar att du tar bort alla datum och därefter skriver in informationen igen och därefter sparar allt på nytt.
Om detta inte fungerar, hör vänligen av dig till oss igen så ska vi försöka hjälpa dig.
Jag skulle vilja be dig att skicka en beskrivning om hur du går tillväga, steg för steg, så att jag kan försöka efterlikna ditt tillvägagångsätt och på så sätt kan hitta den korrekta åtgärden till problemet.
If you go back to basic and you have more people in your tree than the number allowed for a basic plan, nothing will happen to the data. It will remain intact on your family site. The only thing that you won't be able to do is add more info to the tree.
SuperSearch contains billions of records and takes money to maintain. There is no charge for searching and there are many free collections you can view records in.
If purchasing a data subscription is too much of a committment at the moment, we also offer credit packages that allow you to buy individual records as you find them.
One reason that could explain why you are not able to edit your tree right could stem from the difference between the types of trees that you could have online.
There are three different types of trees that you can have on a family site; a Web Tree that was made online, a tree that was imported to your family site using a GEDCOM file, or a tree that was made in Family Tree Builder, and published to your family site.
When you create a family tree in Family Tree Builder and publish it to your family site, you CANNOT edit the tree online. If you built your tree in Family Tree Builder, each time you would like to make changes to your tree online, edit your tree in Family Tree Builder and then re-publish your family tree to your family site. This will update the previously published tree (with the same name) on your site.