Hi, I am viewing a Census form from 1850 of my great great great grandfather's family. On the form it says implied by his mother's name and a few of his siblings, What does implied mean on these forms?
I can't seem to avoid my parents having some sort of relationship. They never had snd even when I choose friends as an option it states partners in the info. They never gave been and they are both happily married. Howdo I change this or is the treesimply to conservative for an average modern Scandinavian family?
Your parents obviously have you as relation/child, That means they at least have had a relation resulting in a child, you! So in cases like that I set the relation to "Friends"! I guess they still are friends.
Well as my headline says then yes, I am their only relation. And as an answer; while I am fortunate to have parents who do not hate each other, they are not friends. Moreover, what if your parents are not friends - what if they hate each other. Also, my issue is that when I use friends or even just other, then it shows them as partners, which they have never ever been. Why is it only possible for an entry (be it me or my grandmother or anyone else) to have parents who have a relations to each other. Why can't it just say 'has child xx with xy'. Throughout history children have been born without their parents having any kind of relationship except perhaps a sexual. And today even that is not necessary.
Well I understand what you say. The only possibility is to set you as child to BOTH parents and they will be listed as parent with no partner. BUT that means you will be in the tree TWICE. That way you can "disconnect" them from each other.
I´m sorry but I´m an old man and have a some problems to understand your problem. Sorry for that! In a famili tree there will allways be information that some people or the tree owner donesn´t like. I´m NOT moralizing in any way just stating a fact. Even if people hate each other it will not take away the fact that they have a child together.
The issue is not that they have a child together. That is a given. The issue is that when you add a child to two people you automatically make them partners, which sounds as if they have a relationship, have lived together, dated. It is that word I really don't like. And it pops up no matter what. The extreme case would be a rape victim who got pregnant. If she and the child was to be written into any kind of family tree which the child was making, the program would create an unidentified father and state that the mother was a partner of this person. I don't think she would be to pleased to have her rapist written in as partner even though she loved her child and even though the child might want to study its fathers family tree. This is the extreme case and just to show the problem of using the word partner and creating a default that makes you the partner of your childs other parent. It should be possible to not create relationship links between parents, but simply show them as parents - blood relations. I know that you can decide to leave out one parent, but maybe the child got relations to its father's family making it odd not to include it. There are countless examples where the worsing partner is incorrect and sometimes even problematic. Just because you have a child with someone doesn't mean that person is your partner. The link is logically wrong.
You are making my point Ingrid. Geneaology is about blood realtions. That is why I don't understand why it by default -no matter what relationship status I tick - states that my parents are partners. They are not. They never have been. Geneaology is about researching your ancestors and I would like to have a tree which includes the correct info. Something which is pretty crucial in researching the past. But the software by default establishes a link which is not correct. They are my bloodrelations and that bloodlink is central to my tree. It should be possible to correct their status as partners into them simply being my parents which is the relevant fact. I am not in anyway talking family values or what not, simply that this program establishes a default which will prove problematic to a lot of research. An other example us my great geandmother who got knocked up by some unknown male which was a major scandal at the time. The tree wants this unidentified - two minutes of fun - guy to be her partner. It says she is partner of him. He mught be my great grandfather and I want him in my tree, but it creates a wrong fact and makes the tree incorrect. It wont allow for knock ups, sperm donation or any other possibility where there is no partnership. The bloodline should be what matters.
No software is perfect and I know ancestry for instance doesn't make the relationship connection unless you tick it, but I like MyHeritage. I just hope they'd allow for people to untick the relationship default or changing the wording so it doesn't say partner. I am not trying to highlight the last part. The font wont stop changing size:-)
I agree with you that myHeritage should have at least a third option that is neither spouse /married nor partner. I have been irritated about this myself, although, strictly speaking, your parents were briefly and perhaps unwillingly or even unwittingly, partners in the making of you. I have handled situations like this in my family tree by means of clarifying notes, most of which are interesting stories in themselves and should be, in my opinion, part of a family's unexpurgated history.
If you are using Family Tree Builder (and probably if you just use the website) you can choose relationships from:
Married; Divorced; Separated; Widowed; Engaged; Friends; Anulled (I had one of those until another source explained she had her husband declared dead so she could re-marry...) and Other (which you could certainly use if you are not satisfied with anything else!)
The tree will show a connexion but that is the bloodline.
(Tree view, right click in the marriage and family box underneath the individual partners...
click on edit details, click on arrow in Status box to bring up choices)
So surely there is no problem.
Certainly I agree that genealogy is about blood relationships first because that is the continuation of the life of the family; and marital relationships, important but secondary.
OK, I have to apologize!! VERY sorry! As I do NOT use the online facility, just FTB and upload, I was not aware of the fact that you were not able to set a relation to friends.
I would suggest that people use the FTB program instead, download it to your PC, edit in the tree without stress and then upload it to your web. It seems to me that there are far more options in the FTB than in the online version.
Once again, I´m very sorry but I didn´t undrstand that you were using the online option.
Anna Sofie isn't alone with that problem. There's cases where a couple lived together and having kids but never married. Later on they are separated and married with someone else. In FTB there's no correct options for this kind relationship and in MyHeritage web sites these relations are not shown in the correct way.
How do you delete a family tree? I have been trying for months to delete the 2 family trees I have witn no prevail, this is seriously why I prefer ancestry.com............if I want to delete a tree, I simply select delete...........here there is no option on how to delete it. There is no option for delete, it shows view, edit, download, or export, there is no delete option, so how do you delete the family trees?
Please note that I have contacted you on a one to one basis about this matter for you.
For general user information.
Family trees within the online family site over a certain size can not be deleted by the user themselves and they are required to contact support about this to be assisted with the deletion. This is done due to the fact that more often than not a user may accidentally delete a family tree and once this has happened in the online family site then the tree is lost for good and hours of work simply go down the drain.
So to avoid mistkes (as have happened in the past) we assist users with large family tree deletions.
I hope this has provided useful information to the general public.