Whilst I realise that this site is American based, MyHeritage claims to support other countries.
My first question is that my research is based in the UK and I find that when I type a name in I am utterly inundated with American entries. How can I filter American entries OUT from my searches and the SMART matches? Nothing personal, but my interest is in the UK for now and I find trawling through untold American entries makes me just stop after about an hour. Ancestry.com allow you to choose the country of your choice and weeds out
My second question is regarding smart matches. Once again I am inundated with American matches that have NOTHING to do with my family.
My third question is regarding smart matches again. WHY do I find people that have MY ancestors and I confirm that they are obviously related to me - and yet there is NO response? Is there really a point to confirming? I've emailed so many of them ...... yet no replies.
I don't yet have subscription, I only have the free version (for now). I do get the smart matches but unfortunately I can't confirm them, because it is a paid feature. I also found that I cannot contact the site managers to let them know that I want to confirm the matches and that we are related, because that is a paid feature as well (unless I am doing it wrong of course.)
By now I am going to have a TON of smart matches to confirm once I convert to the paid subscription LOL.
Unfortunatly Smart Matches does not work as good as it used to do. Also many users are lazy and dont fill in data as accurate as at least I want. If there is an exact birth date and place I have seen just the year and parish. A lot of people with same name are born in the same parish each year, so who is who? The swedish church records are mostly very precise for the period they cover. When it comes to even older data the precition may just be year and sometime just calculated from the knowledge of when people was married and/or died.
Also some inventive ways of using name fields have made it even worse for Smart Matches.
All this make it hard for the program to make accurate Smart Matches.
If you are lucky you will even get Smart Matches where the gender is different.
Hopefully the next version of Smart Match handling will be better.
WHY do I find people that have MY ancestors and I confirm that they are obviously related to me - and yet there is NO response?
From my experience, the vast majority don't. One thing I do is weed out multiple trees from the same person that all say the same thing and trees that haven't been updated in a long time, and ignore them. That gets the number down a lot.
Thank you very much, Eric and Landers for your input. And want a laugh, Eric? I think you are one of my smart matches LOL see if you have a BRYCE family tree confirmation? landers, I was really interested in knowing there is a new smart match upgrade on the way - all I can say is ROLL ON!! I have been feeling a tad overwhelmed with the sheer amount of smart matches I get - and I guess pretty annoyed at the amount of them that don't remotely match my entries or are one duplicate after another. Oh well - back to the blocking process Happy Olympics over there Eric and hurry up and send our summer back to Aussieland, landers!
it's noon here (cold and damp) and you should be sleeping peacefully in all the pouring rain? LOL Slim Dusty YUCK I have to be honest and admit I loathe C&W - specially aussie C&W (I find it very depressing) My son tells me I'm a messed up kid because of my birth - my dad was scots - my mum is english - I was born in england and raised in Australia! he says there is no hope for me lol Go to bed Eric lol
Jeg oplever at rigtig mange af de oplysninger andre har, er skjult som <Private> når jeg modtager smartmatch.
Jeg har nu i en periode skrevet tilbage til vedkommende og gjort dem opmærksom på problemet med at godkende et smartmatch, når en del oplysninger er skjult. De svar jeg får er, at de ikke har lavet begrænsninger og at de ikke kan gennemskue hvorfor nogle navne er skjult.
Jeg har gennemskuet at man skal huske at angive en person som død, selv om det vel skulle være ret enkelt programmæssigt, at angive alle personer født for mere end 120 år siden som døde.
Så, hvordan undgår man helt sikkert at ens personoplysninger bliver skjult.
I bland dyker “privata” profiler upp bland de Smart Matches som du mottar. I dessa Smart Matches finns det matchande information gömd bakom den “privata” fasaden. Det är därför som du fortfarande får dessa Smart Matches. Den matchande släktplatsen administratör kan enkelt åtgärda detta.
I just signed up for MyHeritage and I am investigating if this is the place where I want to safehouse and manage all my family records.
One of the most important things I look at is migration of data (import/export). For records like this where data intends to live basically forever, the product lifecycle becomes vital. Many things can happen. MyHeritage might go out of business (in X amount of years), I might want to host the data myself, I might want to choose another provider for whatever reason, etc etc. I would never put myself into a position where my family's data is kept hostage and all the invested time is locked in.
So I am very happy to see that you can easily export a family tree into the GEDCOM format and that you also can download an entire photo album (you even give us ZIP compression that takes CPU power). That's great!
However, I am looking for a service where my family members can contribute with precious meta data. A photo is not much without the context, and when my older family members have passed, I can't go back and ask them about a context for a photo again if that data would be lost or held hostage. But this kind of meta data doesn't seem to be possible to export? If so, where? I am talking about the tags, keywords and notes for photos. If there would be some way to export that as well that would be AWESOME!
"We reserve the right, in our sole discretion, to reject, refuse to post or remove any content posted by you and/or any family site, or to restrict, suspend, or terminate your access to all or any part of the Website and/or Service at any time, for any or no reason, with or without prior notice, and without any liability, financial or otherwise. We also reserve the right, in our sole discretion, to reject, refuse to post or remove any family site at any time, for any or no reason, with or without prior notice, and without any liability, financial or otherwise, if we deem that the family site is in breach of this Agreement in any way."
Ok, I know you wouldn't just delete stuff without cause, but it could happen. So I prefer to take a personal backup once in a while.
I also thought about scanning my pages automatically once in a while to back it up, but then we have this:
"...systematically download content and data from or through the Website to make or populate another database for any purpose. Scraping, crawling and/or harvesting of any data and any pages from the Website without our explicit prior written consent is strictly prohibited."
Which means that I wouldn't be able to back it up that way either.
Veeery long monologue here, but the bottom line question is: How can I back up the meta data of photos?
Thank you for using our forum and thank you for your suggestions.
In your web tree can your comments be saved, if you choose to export your tree (Gedcom). It is done in the following way, if you click on one of the profiles in your web tree, then click on “edit profile”, and then “personal info”. The information you put there will be saved in a Gedcom file as notes.
Regarding photos and comments made on photography’s; these comments will not be saved when making exporting your tree. Though what you are suggesting is a very good idea.
Please remove this reminder option. It really is annoying. At this moment I really have no time to work on my tree. And I hate to receive reminders to evaluate their smart matches truely EVERY day.
I tried the ignore this family option, but that doesn't stop the annoying mails. I am about to quit using MyHeritage when this spam continues any longer without any option to blacklist annoying people!
I try to wait to send reminders to give people at least a few months to respond, but after that I feel they should take a look and send a reminder. A few months after that I might actually send an email, although While I have a lot of matches unconfirmed, and even more before I reset my matches(turning matches off and then restarting resets them), I have only sent one email. They never responded either even though they were still updating their tree every day. I have tried to ignore trees from any user that never confirmed before. Although all of this depends a bit on how often they update their tree. It's one thing if they haven't updated their tree in 6 months, I can assume that they aren't being active in the system at all, probably not even logging in, but if they are updating every day and still haven't checked the match in 6 months, I would defintely be willing to contact them. There needs to be a consistant way of making smart matches viable. Such that if a person turns smart matching off for themselves, we don't get a match for them either.
I do have to disagree and say that the reminder option is important to have. Maybe there could be a limit such as you can't remind someone until a certain amount of time has passed. Maybe you have to have confirmed a match 2-3 months before you can remind them to do the same.
People start using it within three days after confirming.
And atm, I am one of those users that hasn't updated his tree in several months. For me it really is a pain in the ... right now, and simply because of two users. One of them sends reminders even twice a day in the weekend. And there simply is NO way to stop that other then closing your tree completely, which excludes myself from finding leads for research.
I think they simply are users living from the research of others and are looking for easy ways to extend theirs without much effort of themselves.
Well, if it is THAT important to ber able to send reminders that even spamming (it's nothing less) is allowed, I am simply out of here. That is NO way of treating people. If I have to shut myself out completely, a premium MyHeritage account has no added value left.
I was one of those people willing to confirm matches whenever I had time. But I also know people who simply hate people "stealing" their whole tree through smart matches.
Well, I have around 5,500 matches not replied to, according to the SmartMatch statistics.
And I am once more working my way through the SmartMatches, by 'people', alphabetically. That way I see matches already confirmed and new ones.
But I am a bit puzzled by your comments:
'I think they simply are users living from the research of others and are looking for easy ways to extend theirs without much effort of themselves.', and
'But I also know people who simply hate people "stealing" their whole tree through smart matches. '
I have quite happily built my tree using Smart Matches, and a majority of them come from relations who know that. But 'an easy way without much effort" ?? Hardly. It has taken me half a year, pretty much full time, so far. And I don't just put the names in my tree, I do it line by line, check as carefully as possible for errors and discrepancies, and advise the owner of the other tree whenever I find them. And if anyone doesn't want me to use material from their tree they can set the privacy levels to a suitable level.
But far from this I have become a member of quite a few sites of people who I share information with, and they have joined my tree, too. I steal from them and they steal from me and we are all happy. Isn't that the rationale behind the whole system? Sharing information? At first I was taking information, but as my tree gets bigger I am able to give more information to others. In a lot of cases with errors removed and extra information from other matches.
I steal from them and they steal from me and we are all happy. Isn't that the rationale behind the whole system?
That's about the size of it. The way I look at it is that this is a fun hobby that I do for my own reasons. My information is as accurate as I can make it, though I know there are many errors. If I am going to put my tree on a site like this, why not let other people have it? Let them take what they can get and get on with their lives. Not even much point in having private trees either. Non-members can't see living people anyway. What's the big deal about them seeing the rest of the tree?
Eric--I totally agree with you. I have gained enormously more than I could possibly lose by being generous with my information and try to acknowledge and thank my sources whenever possible. And I, too, am very careful about what I use and how I use it--I would NOT think, for instance, of indiscriminately 'stealing' and incorporating whole trees or even parts of trees! I tried it once with one branch and cursed and tore my hair out for a month undoing the damage! And I, too, am puzzled by complaints such as the ones we are discussing. This kind of 'work' is a labor of love. If it is not fun for you, why do it at all? Besides, you can always hit the 'ignore this tree' button if the information is not useful or junk, or marked 'private' and there is no telling which.
I have no problem with people "stealing" my findings. The only issue about it, is when I know that the "stolen" information I have is unchecked and they confirm the smart match with my tree right of without them checking it.
By the way, I have 20000 matches unconfirmed by others and I have about 60 confirmed matches myself to confirm/reject.
När jag sparar mitt färdiga träd som JPG fil försvinner födelseåret på 5 personer, alltid samma 5 och bara när jag sparar som JPG, inte när jag sparar som PDF. Det är alltså inte hela födelsedatumet utan endast årtalet som försvinner, månad och datum står kvar. Vad beror detta på och hur fixar jag så det inte händer?