My mum was Elsie Joan Winkel her from ancesters came from germany to england and then settled in australia l know my grandmothers married name was

Thursa Winkel and she lived in south australia but l forget my grandfathers name they had six daughters l will try and find out more because l have not thought much about it until now l dont know if this will help you or even if it is related to your search all the best Bev Salter email   Totem1966@hotmaail.com.au