So glad to get your posting, this morning, although I do not speak or read German.
I am wondering if you might be able to let me know what you have said, in English, please!?
Do you know anything about the Seiring(Siering) name? August Seiring(Siering) and his family came to America in the mid 1800's. His wife's name was Hermena who was the niece/ ward of a Gen. VonSteinmetz. If you know anything of these two names, please send any information to Charlesseiring@bellsouth.net. My husband has been trying for so many years to find information on his family, andis getting very discouraged at not beeing able to find any. The family members that we have talked with, don't seem to know much, or they just don't want us to know anything.
From the 1900 Census:
August Siering 65 Germany Feb. 1835 married 25 yrs. Immigrated 1870
He was a florist.
Hermena (wife) 46 Germany Jan.1854 had 9 children, all survives immigration 1871
Charles (son) 24 Aug. 1875 he was a machinist
Katie (daughter) 22 Oct. 1877 Saleswoman/grocery
Herman (son) 17 (1910 shows him in Pittsburgh, married to Katherine G.) June 1882 Machinist/car
William (son) 15 May 1885
Margaret (daughter) 11 Sept.1888
Herbert Seiring (son) 10 Dec.1889
Clara (daughter) 6 Aug. 1893
Edith (daughter) 2 Jan.1898
From the information that we have gotten form the family, August was supposed to have been brought to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to work as an electrician in the Pittsburgh Steel Mills. The one son, Charles E.(probably Ernst) Seiring(Siering) was supposed to have been born in Essen, Germany before the family came to America.
Please let us know what information you may have on this name.
I am working on my maiden name of Winebrenner. My father's ancesters also came from the Palatinate, also. My ancester, Johann Christian Winebrenner (Weinbrenner) came to America with several others of his family ( his mother, and other siblings). His father, Johann Theib Weinbrenner died before leaving Germany.
Well, I hope to hear from you on the Seiring (Siering) name, as my husband is so anxious to know of his ancesters.
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. I would appreciate it if you could respond in ENglish, If you can, as I don't speak or read German, and I don't know of anyone who does. Thanks.
So glad to hear from you again!! Thank you for the information on General VonSteinmetz. Is there anything that you can find on his neice/ward, Hermena? If you can find anything on her and her family, we would be greatful for that, too.
My husband is so happy that you have sent us the information on the General.
With their landing the emigrants of the authorities became from fear of sticking on diseases into the city do not aufgenomen, but had on Governors Iceland up to the autumn in tents and huts to campieren; allmaehlig then also the state of health improved. Hunterin divided and placed the survivors in 6 companies to these ever a captain from their center to the maintenance of the order against the point. The most influential personality among these chosen leaders was Johan Conrad of wise, in former times more wuerttembergischer Schult-hot in large Aspach with Backnang, which still several times we in its biography a description of the large exodus to owe to have and us in the course of the narration will meet. Before its transfer to America the Pfaelzer, as, had above mentioned for the queen Anna the loyalty oath had carried out and the obligation had undertaken to process the collecting mains made by the English government after its arrival allmaehlig. In order to set and the Gewinnnung of tar and pitch make the emigrants possible for this in conditions, Gouveneur Hunter of the Scot Livingstone at the Hudson, about 50 miles continued to acquire river upward from the settlement Kocherthals (at the Quassaik brook) larger Laendereien and settled the German emigrants in September and October 1710, long before the time that the Schwulst families (1860/1864) emigrierten, on this and the government country which is because of it. That of Livingston bought and of emigrants occupied area bore later the name Livingston Manor. The address lain on the left eastern bank of the Hudson East Camp, Columbia County was called, called those on the jenseitigen western bank against it west Camp; the latter maintained its name, while East Camp is called Germantown now. Originally this consisted of four villages: Hunterstown, Queensbury, Annsberg and Haysbury, which had about 1178 inhabitants after the counting of 1 May 1711. West Camp covered three villages: Elisabethtown, Georgtown and new Village with 583 inhabitants, the entire colony counted 1761 heads. The remainder of the 2227 emigrants were in the autumn 1710 in New York everywhere in the city absent-minded. Were primarily verwitwete women, kraenkliche men and 80 parentsless children, furthermore a larger number of adults, who had taken service on the neighbouring farms. Some families were in this way always torn out in vein.
I don't know if I have written you to thank you for the information that you sent to us five days ago, as I have been so busy taking care of my great grandchildren, and have not had too much time to sit down to the computer to check the emails. I do thank you for the information that you have given to us. I hope that we can find more information on Charles' ancesters......August Seiring(Siering) and his wife, Hermena.
Thanks, again for the information that you have sent us. Nana &Charles
Was glad to hear from you, again, but the only words that I could understand was August and Hermena, the rest of the words, being in German (and I do wish that we could speak and read the language), we couldn't understand.
I hope to hear from you and others about the Seiring(Siering) family from Germany.
Don't know if we told you that August and his family came to Pennsylvania, to the city of Pittsburgh so that August could work as an electrician in the Pittsburgh Steel Company. If any one knows of any information of this sort, please let us know. We are very anxious to have as much information about August and his family.
We wait anxiously for any information.
I am also working on my family history, also, but I have been able to get much information. I am working on Winebrenner/Winkleman/ Ashcom/Cogley/VanHorn/Ashbaugh/Caldwell/Coho names, so if any one has any information on these names, please let me know, but in English, please!?
I know very little German, as I have said before, and the greeting is a bit of German that I know. I do thank you fro all the information that you have sent us, and as soon as I can get my printer up and running, I will copy all the information, and try to find a person, here, to translate it for us. We are surrounded by those who spea Spanish, and I know only a little of that language, too!
Just keep sending us as much information on any of the German and Deutch names we have sent to you.
He was educated at the cadet school of Stolp in Pomerania from 1807 to 1811, in the midst of the misery and poverty caused by the French occupation. At the outbreak of the War of Liberation he and his elder brother made their way through the French posts to Breslau, where they were at once appointed to the army, the elder as ensign on probation, the younger to the substantive rank of second lieutenant. After a vain attempt to transfer to the BlücherHussars, a regiment he had an intense boyish admiration for when it was quartered at Stolp, he was ordered to report to General Yorck, who treated him and the other officers from Breslau with coldness, until Steinmetz asked about returning to the king who had sent him.
The brothers were in the hardest fighting of the campaign of 1813, the elder being killed at the battle of Leipzig and the younger being wounded more than once. During the short halt on the Rhine he improved his military and general education. In the battles in France, he won the Iron Cross, Second Class. After the peace, he entered Paris only once, fearing to spend the ten ducats that sent monthly to his mother. For the same reason, he did not take part in the pleasures of his better off comrades.
His avoidance of youthful excesses helped him overcome bad health and become physically vigorous, which he was to the end of his military career. His character as well as his physique was strengthened by his Spartan way of life, but his temperament was embittered by the circumstances which imposed this self-restraint. His poverty and want of influence were the more obvious as he was, shortly after the wars, assigned to the lowly 2nd Foot Guards, stationed in Berlin.
He rigorously devoted himself to study and his professional duties. From 1820 to 1824 he studied at the General War Academy, graduating from the course with distinction, and so was appointed to the topographical section of the general staff. General von Müffling reported that he was arrogant and resented encouragement, which he probably regarded as patronising, but that his ability would outdistance his comrades. Steinmetz was too poor to buy a good horse or a house, and he had to live in his regimental quarters. However, shortly after his marriage to his cousin Julie, the daughter of Lieutenant-General KKF von Steinmetz (1768-1837), gave him enough money to temper his resentment, since his father-in-law was generous to the young couple, and helped him get an appointment as captain at the Landwehr Guard at Potsdam. His brigade commander, General von Röder, was an excellent soldier, and Steinmetz often spoke of the thorough training he received.
From 1830 his regimental work went on without incident in various garrisons, until in 1839 he was promoted to major given command of a battalion. In this position he had many differences with his superiors, for he urged strenuous training for the troops, in all seasons. However, his off-duty relationships were extremely cordial, thanks chiefly to the social gifts of his wife.
In 1848, he commanded a guard battalion during the disturbances in Berlin, but was not involved. The same year, he was sent to fight in the First Schleswig War. After the battle of Schleswig, Wrangel, the commander-in-chief, told him that he had decided the battle. He distinguished himself again at Düppel, and Prince William decorated him with the order Pour le Mérite.
On returning to Germany, he was given the difficult command of troops at Brandenburg during the sitting of a democratic popular convention there, troops known to be affected by the revolution. During the Olmtz-Bronnzell incident of 1850, he was military governor of Cassel. In 1851, he became colonel commandant of the cadet school of Berlin, where he reformed the prevailing system of instruction, the defects of which he had condemned as early as 1820. Though more than fifty years of age, he learned Latin and English to be a more competent instructor.
In 1854, after forty-one years of active service, he was promoted major-general. At Magdeburg, as at Berlin, his reforming zeal made him many enemies, and in October his youngest and only surviving child died at twenty-six, which affected him deeply. In 1857, he was posted to the command of a guard brigade at Berlin, and thence almost immediately to a divisional command in the I Corps. Early in 1858 he was promoted lieutenant-general, and for the five years that he held this command he devoted himself to cavalry. In 1863, learning that Adolf von Bonin, his senior by date of rank, but his junior in age and length of service, was to be appointed to the command of the I Corps, he considered retirement. However, when Bonin took command, Stenmetz was given command of the II Corps. Shortly afterwards, the crown prince of PrussiaFrederick William took over II Corps and Steinmetz went to command the V Corps at Posen. Soon after this his wife died.
He was promoted general of infantry in 1864, and led the V Corps in the Austro-Prussian War of 1866. His skillful and resolute leadership was displayed in three battles on three successive days, the Battle of Nachod, Skalitz and Schweinschädel (see Seven Weeks' War), and opened the way through the mountains in spite of Bonin's defeat at Trautenau. In 1867, the "Lion of Nachod", as he was popularly called, married Elise von Krosigk (who after his death married Count Bruhl). He was now, for the first time in his life, a fairly wealthy man, having been awarded a money grant for his brilliant services in 1866. About this time he was elected a member of the North German Confederation parliament.
At the outbreak of the Franco-Prussian War in 1870, Steinmetz was appointed to command one of the three armies assembled on the Rhine, the others being led by Prince Frederick Charles and the crown prince. It was not long before serious differences arose between Steinmetz and Prince Frederick Charles. Steinmetz, embittered by his lifelong struggle against the influences of wealth and position, saw an order to clear the roads for the prince's army as an attempt to crowd a humbler comrade out of the fighting, and various incidents added to his growing resentment.
On August 6 he lead the I army south from his position on the Moselle and moved straight toward the town of Spicheren, cutting off Prince Frederick Charles from his forward cavalry units in the process. There he encountered the French 2nd Corps under Frossard, which was fortified between Spicheren and Forbach and was able to stall him until the German II Army came to the aid of their compatriots and routed the French.
Eight days later he again encountered the French army at Borny-Colombey. At the Battle of Gravelotte he lost his temper and wasted his troops against a French superior position, nearly causing the defeat of the Prussian armies. After this, he was relieved of command and sent home as governor-general of the V and VI Army Corps districts.
In April 1871, he retired at his own request, but his great services were not forgotten when victory had softened animosities, and he was promoted to field marshal, given a pension of 2000 thalers and made a member of the upper chamber. In the spirit of loyalty which had guided his whole career, he made no attempt to justify his conduct in 1870. His life in retirement was quiet and happy, and he remained healthy to the last. He died at Bad Landeck on 2 August1877. The 37th Fusiliers of the German army bore his name as part of their regimental title.
See supplement of Militär Wochenblatt (1877 and 1878).