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I am researching my family in the US and Greece. My paternal Grandmother was a Troupakis from the Kalamata area...Her name was Helen and she married George Antos (Antoneas) and lived in the US. Please contact me if you have any knowledge of either family
Looking for members or descendants of Kapetanios family from Kifissia. My grandmother's maiden name was Marianthia Kapetanios and my uncle's name Manthos Fortunas and his two sons Angelos and Stelios
Looking for members or descendants of Kapetanios family from Kifissia. My grandmother's maiden name was Marianthia Kapetanios and my uncle's name Manthos Fortunas and his two sons Angelos and Stelios
Hello from Athens Greece. I was looking on the internet to find some references for an old friend of mine, the intellectual and cinema and theater director, from whom I have not heard for a long time (as myself I was out of Greece for 11 years), and I got into your message. The person I knew was named Angelos Fortunas and he had a son named Manthos. It seems too big to be a coincidence, so that is why I write this message to you. He might as well be your oncle's son who named his son after his father Manthos. I know where he stayed in Athens, somewhere in Kypseli. He also refered very often to an old aunt that he was taking care of back in the late 80's and early 90's.
Maybe you already found them after two years that you wrote this message. If we are talking about the same person, please let me know. Hope I've helped.
Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Angelos is indeed supposed to be my cousin and I tried several times to contact him but he never wanted any contact. He is Manthos' son indeed but the aunt is not my mother. Perhaps it was an aunt on the maternal side.
I say supposed because a lot of the things are crowded in uncertainty and I have come to the personal conclusion that although appearances seem to betray that, but Manthos was probably not my mother's real brother as dates dont seem to match.
I have been trying to find someone who would be willing to do some research for me, and more precisely find who was Angelo's grandfather (and possibly mine too) but have not had any volunteers. Would you happen to know any one?
Julie, do you live in the US? I live in Switzerland.
Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Angelos is indeed supposed to be my cousin and I tried several times to contact him but he never wanted any contact. He is Manthos' son indeed but the aunt is not my mother. Perhaps it was an aunt on the maternal side.
I say supposed because a lot of the things are crowded in uncertainty and I have come to the personal conclusion that although appearances seem to betray that, but Manthos was probably not my mother's real brother as dates dont seem to match.
I have been trying to find someone who would be willing to do some research for me, and more precisely find who was Angelo's grandfather (and possibly mine too) but have not had any volunteers. Would you happen to know any one?
Julie, do you live in the US? I live in Switzerland.
Again thank you.
I did not expect such a prompt reply. I leave in Greece, Athens and I speak french and greek in case you would like to communicate in that language.
After sending the message I was thinking that Angelos had never mentioned a brother. Also he was speaking of two aunts in the beginning. Anyway, to be honest I was trying to find if he is still in life because if so he must be quite old.
But tell me a little more about the person you had tried to contact.
Thank you so much for your answer. Although my mother was Greek, I cannot write the language and having studied and worked in English am fully fluent in that language.
Angelos must be in his early 70s if he is still allive. His brother was Stelios who was about 3 years younger than him. He had an antique shop in Vukurestiu just across Lalounis' shop. He passed away about 10 years away after having closed his store and wanting to open a tango club.
I was always told that Manthos was my mum's brother but assuming that my grandmother's birthdate is correct, then that is hardly likely considering she must have had him when she was about 6 years old.
My grandmother's maiden name was Capetanios and I have assumed she actually never married my maternal grandfather. He disappeared in 1916 or 1917 and my nmother looked for him the 1930s but found no trace whatsoever of him.
As regards the Fortuna name I was told that this was my grandfather's nickname because he was a sea captain, that it was Manthos who took it as a war name, that it was really his name and that he was from Zakinthos. There are a lot of discrepancies and i once met a lawyer in Athens and asked him to find out who was registered as Manthos' father. We signed a mandate and i paid an advance. Two months later he returned the advance and said it was not possible to get this data.
I am not sure hwo you mean by the person I had tried to contact. I guess you are refering to what I said - ie that i wanted someone to try and find out who was registered as Manthos' father. So far no one has volunteered although i have offered to pay.
Thank you so much for your answer. Although my mother was Greek, I cannot write the language and having studied and worked in English am fully fluent in that language.
Angelos must be in his early 70s if he is still allive. His brother was Stelios who was about 3 years younger than him. He had an antique shop in Vukurestiu just across Lalounis' shop. He passed away about 10 years away after having closed his store and wanting to open a tango club.
I was always told that Manthos was my mum's brother but assuming that my grandmother's birthdate is correct, then that is hardly likely considering she must have had him when she was about 6 years old.
My grandmother's maiden name was Capetanios and I have assumed she actually never married my maternal grandfather. He disappeared in 1916 or 1917 and my nmother looked for him the 1930s but found no trace whatsoever of him.
As regards the Fortuna name I was told that this was my grandfather's nickname because he was a sea captain, that it was Manthos who took it as a war name, that it was really his name and that he was from Zakinthos. There are a lot of discrepancies and i once met a lawyer in Athens and asked him to find out who was registered as Manthos' father. We signed a mandate and i paid an advance. Two months later he returned the advance and said it was not possible to get this data.
I am not sure hwo you mean by the person I had tried to contact. I guess you are refering to what I said - ie that i wanted someone to try and find out who was registered as Manthos' father. So far no one has volunteered although i have offered to pay.
Very best regards,
Michael
Good morning,
It is amazing but now that you are mentioning it I do remeber something about a brother who was an antiquaire, although I had never met him.
When I was talking about the person you have contacted I meant Angelos. He had studied cinema in Italy and then he specialised in radio broadcasts of thetrical plays.
Have you ever contacted him?
As for your grandmother's age, at those times they did not kep clear records.
Well, I could try occasionnaly to find out how someone can get a record of his family at the Athens city hall, and give you this information. Then, you might write a proper and official demand, which I could help youto write it in greek and get the information by the official registry.
On the other hand I cannot understand why someone would not like to be contacted by family members. Are there any property issues?
Well, this whole affair intrigues me somehow and the occasion given I'll try to find out more about Angelos and if he is still alive. Hoping that he is still well, he might be the one to enligten us more.
Will let you know about the official ways.
If you are on facebook I have checked your photo (dark costume and tie), then I can tell you that you look a lot like Angelo.
Good morning and thank you so much for your answer. I dont have enough words to say how grateful i was.
I did meet Stelio a couple of times including having lunch with him, and had once a phone conversation with him, but at the time I had not taken upon me to trace who was my maternal grandfather.
Stelio criticized Angelo as someone who was unable to earn a living and who was always asking him for money.
When my grandmother died, there was a property issue as she left a very large field with almond trees and Mantho inherited it and gave nothing to my mother. They stayed out of touch for several years and it was only when Catherine, Manthos' wife and therefore Angelos' mother went to London to be treated for cancer (and where she died I beleive) that they spoke again.
If you believe this is intriguing, please let me tell you I have gone from surprise to surprise.
Just to tell you how the whole thing started: in 1993 I went through a very difficult divorce and was very depressed. A Turkish friend of mine who lives in Geneva invited me for dinner and there happened to be another couple (a young Turkish lady and her Swiss husband). At the end of the meal she offered to read our coffee cups and my friend said her grandmother had been extremely respected as a seer in Turkey and had even indicated Ataturk's precise date and time of death 10 years before he died.
I am a skeptic (to this day) but agreed nevertheless for her to look at my cup as a kind of joke. When she looked at my cup (it was a perfect spiral with an empty part at the bottom - and strangely enough a friend of mine who does that more as game got exactly the same thing several years after but could not interpret it) she started discussing in Turkish with my friend. She said that she did not want to tell me in detail what she had seen, but only that there was a very big mystery in m family related to who my grandfather was. I said 'which grandfather - like everyone else I have two'. She said 'your maternal grandfather'.
So I made a bet with my friend that in a month's time I would give him all of my grandfather's details.
My mother had already passed away, and so had Manthos and Stelio and, as I said, Angelo refused any contact. So I wrote to my father who answered a very long letter telling me he did not really know who my mother really was since they married three times and divorced twice as every time she changed identitiy.
It was very difficult to believe and that is when I stqarted doing research and went from one bizarre situation to another.
Well, Michael, it is more than sure that we are speaking about the same person. Stelios' boutique was called Shiraz, and I wonder if it was not previously at Solonos street, a vertical to Voukourestiou.
As for Angelo he was an erudit, intellectual, art amateur and generally a very interesting person despite the comments of his brother.I am trully sad forhis loss.
He might as well have explained to me the origin of Fortuna name. His son is Mathaios (Manthos), a very handsome man, probably in his late thirties.
I do not know why Angelo did not want to have contact with you, contrary to his brother. You might know better.
Thank you for giving all these details, it is certainly is a passionant story. On the other hand, I understand that the whole inheritance issue might be complicated. And you are not even sure of being real cousins! For the property matters I am not entitled or willing to interfere. A lawyer or notary would be the most appropriate persons to help you with that.
I could only try to help you trace the origins of your family. So,as soon as possible, I'll try to see by which method this is possible. If I understand well you would like to know Matho's Fortunas, husband of Catherine father's name?
